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Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:42 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:40 pm Removing an opposition candidate from a ballot is what an actual attack on democracy looks like

Even if said candidate tried to throw Democracy away because he was butt hurt?

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:48 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:42 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:40 pm Removing an opposition candidate from a ballot is what an actual attack on democracy looks like

Even if said candidate tried to throw Democracy away because he was butt hurt?

If trump truly tried to throw away democracy then yeah. Remove him. But that's a horribly manipulated narrative of 2020 is isn't based on reality

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:48 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:42 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:40 pm Removing an opposition candidate from a ballot is what an actual attack on democracy looks like

Even if said candidate tried to throw Democracy away because he was butt hurt?

If trump truly tried to throw away democracy then yeah. Remove him. But that's a horribly manipulated narrative of 2020 is isn't based on reality

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:40 pm Removing an opposition candidate from a ballot is what an actual attack on democracy looks like

Doesn't matter who the candidate is, it should be frowned upon in any country

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:48 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:42 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:40 pm Removing an opposition candidate from a ballot is what an actual attack on democracy looks like

Even if said candidate tried to throw Democracy away because he was butt hurt?

If trump truly tried to throw away democracy then yeah. Remove him. But that's a horribly manipulated narrative of 2020 is isn't based on reality

Cassandra wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:02 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:48 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:42 pm

Even if said candidate tried to throw Democracy away because he was butt hurt?

If trump truly tried to throw away democracy then yeah. Remove him. But that's a horribly manipulated narrative of 2020 is isn't based on reality

The same people who took 4 covid boosters, the same people who thought George Floyd was murdered, are the same people who believe that there was an insurrection. The doors were unlocked and they invited the protesters in. No one died, aside from a man who had a heart attack outside and a poor woman who was shot by a police officer. The judges in Colorado probably have blue hair and operate on feelings. What's funny though is that they don't realize that this will be overturned by the real supreme court. You can't just delete a candidate because you feel like it.

Cassandra wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:02 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:48 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:42 pm

Even if said candidate tried to throw Democracy away because he was butt hurt?

If trump truly tried to throw away democracy then yeah. Remove him. But that's a horribly manipulated narrative of 2020 is isn't based on reality

The same people who took 4 covid boosters, the same people who thought George Floyd was murdered, are the same people who believe that there was an insurrection. The doors were unlocked and they invited the protesters in. No one died, aside from a man who had a heart attack outside and a poor woman who was shot by a police officer. The judges in Colorado probably have blue hair and operate on feelings. What's funny though is that they don't realize that this will be overturned by the real supreme court. You can't just delete a candidate because you feel like it.

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:02 pm

Cassandra wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:02 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:48 pm

If trump truly tried to throw away democracy then yeah. Remove him. But that's a horribly manipulated narrative of 2020 is isn't based on reality

The same people who took 4 covid boosters, the same people who thought George Floyd was murdered, are the same people who believe that there was an insurrection. The doors were unlocked and they invited the protesters in. No one died, aside from a man who had a heart attack outside and a poor woman who was shot by a police officer. The judges in Colorado probably have blue hair and operate on feelings. What's funny though is that they don't realize that this will be overturned by the real supreme court. You can't just delete a candidate because you feel like it.

Setting all the stupidity of this post aside, they are simply following their state laws and Constitution. I would think that the Party of Law & Order would be OK with that but they only seem to be OK with it when it punishes people they disagree with.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:25 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:02 pm

Cassandra wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:02 pm

The same people who took 4 covid boosters, the same people who thought George Floyd was murdered, are the same people who believe that there was an insurrection. The doors were unlocked and they invited the protesters in. No one died, aside from a man who had a heart attack outside and a poor woman who was shot by a police officer. The judges in Colorado probably have blue hair and operate on feelings. What's funny though is that they don't realize that this will be overturned by the real supreme court. You can't just delete a candidate because you feel like it.

Setting all the stupidity of this post aside, they are simply following their state laws and Constitution. I would think that the Party of Law & Order would be OK with that but they only seem to be OK with it when it punishes people they disagree with.

There are a number of plausible, intelligent, good-faith arguments against the Court upholding the Colorado ruling.

"It was tourists!" isn't one.

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:11 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:25 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:02 pm
Setting all the stupidity of this post aside, they are simply following their state laws and Constitution. I would think that the Party of Law & Order would be OK with that but they only seem to be OK with it when it punishes people they disagree with.

There are a number of plausible, intelligent, good-faith arguments against the Court upholding the Colorado ruling.

"It was tourists!" isn't one.

"...And then we have a dust-up at the Capitol, nothing burned down – and we're gonna make that a major deal?"

People are so hopelessly brainwashed. They will believe anything that helps them contort reality into something that fits into their narrative.

And "the doors were unlocked and they invited the protesters in" doesn't make it less of a big deal. It confirms that we also have a major problem in this country when some members of law enforcement sworn to uphold the law and safeguard the US Capital are participating in an insurrection against our own government.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:41 pm Once again, the California education system covers itself in glory...

randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:40 pm Removing an opposition candidate from a ballot is what an actual attack on democracy looks like

Doesn't matter who the candidate is, it should be frowned upon in any country

According to the investigation, Women for America First, which is run by Amy and Kylie Jane Kremer, a conservative mother-and-daughter team, repeatedly told Park Service officials there would be no march to the Capitol while privately planning for one.

When shown private text messages indicating there would be a march, a park ranger involved in the permitting process told investigators it “bl[ew her] mind,” the report said. The Park Service had repeatedly asked Women for America First whether there would be a march, and the organization “was just adamant there was gonna be no march.”

A White House liaison to the rally organizers sent a text message on Jan. 3 to Women for America First regarding a demonstration at the Ellipse. “POTUS expectations are intimate and then send everyone over to the Capitol,” the message said, according to the report. Katrina Pierson, a Trump spokeswoman, had sent an email on Jan. 2, 2021, with nearly identical language.

Also on Jan. 3, Women for America First, which had received a permit on Jan. 1 for a 5,000-person rally, expanded the number of attendees to 30,000 while continuing to deny to Park Service officials that there would be a march.

On Jan. 4, Kylie Jane Kremer wrote in a text message: “POTUS is going to have us march there/the Capitol.” She added: “It can also not get out about the march because I will be in trouble with the National Park Service and all the agencies, but POTUS is going to just call for it ‘unexpectedly.’”

Shown the texts by the inspector general’s office, a National Park Service permit specialist put it this way: “So, um, basically she lied to all of us,” according to the report.

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Since the Capitol attack, Mr. Trump and his defenders have described the violence as a freewheeling, peaceful protest gone awry. His former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, even claimed that Mr. Trump “ad-libbed” his remarks at the Ellipse calling for a march to the Capitol. But the report is further evidence that the former president and his supporters planned in advance to direct the crowds to Capitol Hill and worked to hide their intentions.

At 12:25 p.m. on Jan. 3, Women for America First sent a widely disseminated email stating: “Jan. 6 is going to be a historic day. All the rallies in the cold, all of the thousands of miles and all of the stress has all been for SAVE AMERICA from a hostile globalist takeover.”