Kansas Crimson

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:59 pm If campaigning for the children to get back into the classroom is a “silly ass stance” then I am guilty as charged.

It's not silly; it's just devoid of reality.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:59 pm If campaigning for the children to get back into the classroom is a “silly ass stance” then I am guilty as charged.

We all agree

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:18 pm what’s funny, is that what’s best for the kids would be to actually prioritize funding for public education so that teachers aren’t buying supplies out of their own pockets

That dips into MICH's pocket. As soon as what's best for others isn't what's also best for MICH then there is a disagreement about "what's best".

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:59 pm If campaigning for the children to get back into the classroom is a “silly ass stance” then I am guilty as charged.

(But of course this isn't what you did. Your top reason for sending the kids back to school is that otherwise those lazy, freeloading teachers are getting paid to sit on their asses.)

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:11 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:59 pm If campaigning for the children to get back into the classroom is a “silly ass stance” then I am guilty as charged.

(But of course this isn't what you did. Your top reason for sending the kids back to school is that otherwise those lazy, freeloading teachers are getting paid to sit on their asses.)

Which is hilarious. Teaching is hard work. Suddenly switching to online is harder. Going back and forth on short notice for undetermined lengths of time harder still.

But mich is pissed because they don't need to put on shoes.

I think everyone agrees kids need to be in school, in person. But not right now. That would put the teachers at risk, who go home to their spouses and their families. Maybe young kids can throw off the "fungus" but not older individuals. And one cannot count on elementary school age kids to keep on their masks and socially distance. That forces teachers to become baby sitters to enforce hygiene matters rather than teach.

Leawood wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:31 pm I think everyone agrees kids need to be in school, in person. But not right now. That would put the teachers at risk, who go home to their spouses and their families. Maybe young kids can throw off the "fungus" but not older individuals. And one cannot count on elementary school age kids to keep on their masks and socially distance. That forces teachers to become baby sitters to enforce hygiene matters rather than teach.

Kids seem to follow the rules better than adults.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:37 pm

Leawood wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:31 pm I think everyone agrees kids need to be in school, in person. But not right now. That would put the teachers at risk, who go home to their spouses and their families. Maybe young kids can throw off the "fungus" but not older individuals. And one cannot count on elementary school age kids to keep on their masks and socially distance. That forces teachers to become baby sitters to enforce hygiene matters rather than teach.

Kids seem to follow the rules better than adults.

And, the broader implications of keeping kids home from schools are severe, in many ways.

I'm in the "the schools are about the last things you should close" camp.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:21 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:11 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:59 pm If campaigning for the children to get back into the classroom is a “silly ass stance” then I am guilty as charged.

(But of course this isn't what you did. Your top reason for sending the kids back to school is that otherwise those lazy, freeloading teachers are getting paid to sit on their asses.)

Which is hilarious. Teaching is hard work. Suddenly switching to online is harder. Going back and forth on short notice for undetermined lengths of time harder still.

But mich is pissed because they don't need to put on shoes.

Not to mention - it is exceptionally poorly-paid work.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:40 pm
And, the broader implications of keeping kids home from schools are severe, in many ways.

I'm in the "the schools are about the last things you should close" camp.

You have spent all day saying the opposite of what I say. And all along you agree with me. You love me.

delusional hilarity

Leawood wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:31 pm I think everyone agrees kids need to be in school, in person. But not right now. That would put the teachers at risk, who go home to their spouses and their families.

Guess who else puts themselves and their families at risk every single day when they get up and leave the house to do their job:

-The person behind the counter at the gas station
-The trash man
-mailman
-the person working the drive thru at McDonald’s
-the receptionist at your doctors office
-the police
-the firemen
-the person that helped you at Best Buy
-the person that stocked the shelves at the grocery store
-your nurse
-your doctor
-your hair cutter
-your city worker that plows your street
-your bank teller
-the person that helped you at the Verizon store
-pizza delivery person
-front desk at the hotel
-person working at the airport
-customs worker at the border crossing
-referee at the KU basketball game
-the thousands of line workers at the Ford/GM/Chrysler plants

Just to name a few. Feel free to add to the list.

If we wrap the teachers in bubble wrap will they get back to the classroom.

Bat shit crazy

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:35 pmBat shit crazy

No. Evil motherphucquer.

Get it right.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:40 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:37 pm

Leawood wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:31 pm I think everyone agrees kids need to be in school, in person. But not right now. That would put the teachers at risk, who go home to their spouses and their families. Maybe young kids can throw off the "fungus" but not older individuals. And one cannot count on elementary school age kids to keep on their masks and socially distance. That forces teachers to become baby sitters to enforce hygiene matters rather than teach.

Kids seem to follow the rules better than adults.

And, the broader implications of keeping kids home from schools are severe, in many ways.

I'm in the "the schools are about the last things you should close" camp.

For the most part, I am as well but with numbers spiking across the US, and staffing getting ridiculous, I get it if a local district chooses to go remote in some form for a while.

The glaring difference between the jobs that MICH described is that NONE of those jobs subject an individual to personal interaction with another for longer than 10-15 minutes, except for barbers, who, coincidentally, were required to stand down due to the virus.

And doctor's offices? Chairs are spread out in the waiting room. You are at the receptionist desk for less than 3 minutes to check in, and when you submit your paper work, it is like a toll booth. The doctor and nurse wear a mask and a shield, and I have to get a Covid-19 test before any appointment. I've had two surgeries since September and 5 Covid tests since July 7.

Man, to put it charitably, you are uninformed. Teachers in an in-person setting are with their students at least six hours a day.

I have never interacted with the trash collector or the mail delivery person or the gas station attendant or most of the people on Mich’s list in the days BEFORE the pandemic. My trash collector never gets out of the truck. We do have walk-up mail delivery (our mailbox is next to our front door) but I rarely see the mail(wo)man and when I do I have waved a polite hello from a distance. The only time we are less than six feet away is when we hand them a gift card and a box of cookies around Christmas. I’ve always paid at the gas pump.

I’ve been working from home essentially full time since March. It can be done, but it’s too risky for teachers to go to class in person.

Schools and teachers are asking for PPE and plexiglass and are told there’s no money or get red taped to death.

What a failure.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:37 pm

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:35 pmBat shit crazy

No. Evil motherphucquer.

Get it right.

At least you're owning it now.

zsn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:12 pm I have never interacted with the trash collector or the mail delivery person or the gas station attendant or most of the people on Mich’s list in the days BEFORE the pandemic. My trash collector never gets out of the truck. We do have walk-up mail delivery (our mailbox is next to our front door) but I rarely see the mail(wo)man and when I do I have waved a polite hello from a distance. The only time we are less than six feet away is when we hand them a gift card and a box of cookies around Christmas. I’ve always paid at the gas pump.

I’ve been working from home essentially full time since March. It can be done, but it’s too risky for teachers to go to class in person.

I can't work from home. I have a shitload of work to do at home....but they sont pay me for my own projects.