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Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 am
by hoopla
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:29 am
I wouldn't be opposed to male sports, female sports, and trans sports divisions. Why not make a division for everyone? MtF athletes and FtM athletes all deserve to compete at things they enjoy against their peers.
are you saying you want this 1 kid to play sports by themself?
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:11 am
by Deleted User 863
hoopla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:29 am
I wouldn't be opposed to male sports, female sports, and trans sports divisions. Why not make a division for everyone? MtF athletes and FtM athletes all deserve to compete at things they enjoy against their peers.
are you saying you want this 1 kid to play sports by themself?
Which 1 "kid" are you talking about?
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:15 am
by hoopla
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:11 am
hoopla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:29 am
I wouldn't be opposed to male sports, female sports, and trans sports divisions. Why not make a division for everyone? MtF athletes and FtM athletes all deserve to compete at things they enjoy against their peers.
are you saying you want this 1 kid to play sports by themself?
Which 1 "kid" are you talking about?
c'mon man, its in the thread. everyone talking about 1 trans-kid being targeted by a law in utah. 1 kid.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:34 am
by Deleted User 863
hoopla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:15 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:11 am
hoopla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 am
are you saying you want this 1 kid to play sports by themself?
Which 1 "kid" are you talking about?
c'mon man, its in the thread. everyone talking about 1 trans-kid being targeted by a law in utah. 1 kid.
I don't know anything about the specifics of that situation, so I don't have an opinion. Although I do NOT think "laws" need to be created for any of it. There is no "law" that says my 8yr old can't play in the 5yr old soccer league. It's just not allowed by the league.
My comment about creating leagues for all types of humans was more in the general sense. I want opportunities for everyone.
I also think, to me at least, there is a difference between "kids" and other age groups.
For instance, college athletes. If you were born with male parts you should (generally) compete against others born with male parts. The most notable recent situation is the trans swimmer breaking female records. That doesn't seem right to me.
I think there should be avenues for ALL types of humans to play sports. I want inclusion for everyone. Boy, girl, trans (ftm and mtf). For instance, I do not think it's fair (generally) for girl athletes to have to compete against trans athletes who are ftm (female to male).
Like with most things, every situation is different. And i feel differently about a situation involving say a 10yr old, than i do/would about a 20yr old.
But I don't think politicians need to be involved in any of it (like with many other things).
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:00 pm
by Mjl
Agree with Illy, it's a local issue for the individual leagues. The big government party is trying to butt into way too many things.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:23 pm
by KUTradition
awesomeness
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:24 pm
by jhawks99
Helluva speech.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:37 pm
by MICHHAWK
the democrats will gladly tell you. there is not one single portion of your life. they should not be in charge of.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:50 pm
by Mjl
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:37 pm
the democrats will gladly tell you. there is not one single portion of your life. they should not be in charge of.
Such as?
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:48 pm
by hoopla
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:37 pm
the democrats will gladly tell you. there is not one single portion of your life. they should not be in charge of.
hm, is the utah law being advocated by dems?
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:49 pm
by hoopla
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:34 am
hoopla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:15 am
c'mon man, its in the thread. everyone talking about 1 trans-kid being targeted by a law in utah. 1 kid.
I don't know anything about the specifics of that situation, so I don't have an opinion. Although I do NOT think "laws" need to be created for any of it. There is no "law" that says my 8yr old can't play in the 5yr old soccer league. It's just not allowed by the league.
My comment about creating leagues for all types of humans was more in the general sense. I want opportunities for everyone.
I also think, to me at least, there is a difference between "kids" and other age groups.
For instance, college athletes. If you were born with male parts you should (generally) compete against others born with male parts. The most notable recent situation is the trans swimmer breaking female records. That doesn't seem right to me.
I think there should be avenues for ALL types of humans to play sports. I want inclusion for everyone. Boy, girl, trans (ftm and mtf). For instance, I do not think it's fair (generally) for girl athletes to have to compete against trans athletes who are ftm (female to male).
Like with most things, every situation is different. And i feel differently about a situation involving say a 10yr old, than i do/would about a 20yr old.
But I don't think politicians need to be involved in any of it (like with many other things).
fair post, illy, tx for elaborating.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:01 pm
by Deleted User 863
hoopla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:49 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:34 am
hoopla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:15 am
c'mon man, its in the thread. everyone talking about 1 trans-kid being targeted by a law in utah. 1 kid.
I don't know anything about the specifics of that situation, so I don't have an opinion. Although I do NOT think "laws" need to be created for any of it. There is no "law" that says my 8yr old can't play in the 5yr old soccer league. It's just not allowed by the league.
My comment about creating leagues for all types of humans was more in the general sense. I want opportunities for everyone.
I also think, to me at least, there is a difference between "kids" and other age groups.
For instance, college athletes. If you were born with male parts you should (generally) compete against others born with male parts. The most notable recent situation is the trans swimmer breaking female records. That doesn't seem right to me.
I think there should be avenues for ALL types of humans to play sports. I want inclusion for everyone. Boy, girl, trans (ftm and mtf). For instance, I do not think it's fair (generally) for girl athletes to have to compete against trans athletes who are ftm (female to male).
Like with most things, every situation is different. And i feel differently about a situation involving say a 10yr old, than i do/would about a 20yr old.
But I don't think politicians need to be involved in any of it (like with many other things).
fair post, illy, tx for elaborating.
No problem.
Very sensitive and complex subject. And even more complex if it involves kids.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:09 am
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:37 pm
the democrats will gladly tell you. there is not one single portion of your life. they should not be in charge of.
You should open your eyes and look at the recent legislative track record of the GOP.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:57 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:37 pm
the democrats will gladly tell you. there is not one single portion of your life. they should not be in charge of.
I am going to say this as nicely as possible.
You are either a troll, senile old man, or an ignorant hypocrite. Which is it? Maybe all 3?
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:08 am
by Mjl
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:09 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:37 pm
the democrats will gladly tell you. there is not one single portion of your life. they should not be in charge of.
You should open your eyes and look at the recent legislative track record of the GOP.
Exactly, when I referred to "party of big government", I was referring to pubs. Or maybe that's Dems... And pubs are the party of huge government.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:48 am
by twocoach
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:57 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:37 pm
the democrats will gladly tell you. there is not one single portion of your life. they should not be in charge of.
I am going to say this as nicely as possible.
You are either a troll, senile old man, or an ignorant hypocrite. Which is it? Maybe all 3?
This period of intentional ignorance in our nation is one of the weirdest times of my life. Watching people rail against things despite the obvious evidence that they are completely wrong is so bizarre to me.
I can at least admit when I am ill informed, assume something that turns out to not be accurate or state something that turns out not to be true.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:06 am
by ousdahl
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:12 am
by jhawks99
Every accusation is a confession with these guys.
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:05 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:35 pm
by jfish26
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:12 am
Every accusation is a confession with these guys.
Always.