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Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:11 am
by Shirley
KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:00 am
Robert Reich had some, uh, interesting comments on the economy recently
^^^
I have to resist posting his videos too often, lest it trigger our esteemed
supply sider, don't dare call it
"trickle down", friend.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:13 am
by twocoach
Two weeks from now, right?
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:17 am
by Shirley
lol
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:22 am
by jfish26
twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:13 am
Two weeks from now, right?
Always.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:50 am
by jfish26
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:47 am
It’s all so cynical. If Biden and Harris were to get hit by a truck today, and McCarthy became president, then by Tuesday of next week we’d be hearing about how the new republican administration has brought down inflation in record time.
To wit.
Opinion | Republicans who fought Biden’s agenda now claim credit for it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... x-credits/
It’s the first week of summer recess for Congress, time for lawmakers to meet constituents at a picnic, fly off on a junket with colleagues or, for some, to take credit for things they voted against.
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) visited the massive Tesla plant in his home state, met with the company’s raving CEO, Elon Musk, sat in a Tesla Cybertruck prototype and tweeted out the photos below.
“Everything is bigger in the Lone Star State including @Tesla’s Gigafactory Texas — the 2nd largest manufacturing facility in the U.S.!” he trumpeted. “Tesla’s impressive facility employs 10k Texans & is one of the many reasons why TX is leading in job creation.”
Omitted from Cornyn’s tweet: That he fought bitterly against the clean-energy tax credits that directly prompted Tesla to boost its U.S. manufacturing. Tesla’s current expansion in U.S. output includes a massive new investment at the very plant Cornyn toured and touted.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:04 am
by jfish26
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:55 pm
by randylahey
This must be part of bidens great economy. The us credit score going down
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:44 pm
by defixione
Your credit score also goes down when you tell your creditors you are thinking about not paying them. See Republican house of Representatives, 2023.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:05 pm
by KUTradition
it’s like he doesn’t even pay attention to what is actually happening in this country until his social media feed gets outraged
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:56 pm
by KUTradition
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:01 pm
by jfish26
defixione wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:44 pm
Your credit score also goes down when you tell your creditors you are thinking about not paying them. See Republican house of Representatives, 2023.
You're telling me that when one party holds the full faith and credit of the United States hostage over what happens between people's legs, our lenders might notice???
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:59 pm
by Overlander
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:55 pm
This must be part of bidens great economy. The us credit score going down
Did Biden forget to tell you to pay your fucking bills?
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:52 am
by randylahey
Ah of course, I should have considered that it was all only the Republicans fault yet again
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:53 am
by randylahey
And I'm sure the devaluation of the American dollar, and so many countries switching away from the American dollar, has nothing to do with it
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:36 am
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:52 am
Ah of course, I should have considered that it was all only the Republicans fault yet again
Why speak in absolutes?
(I know why - it’s because you know the problem here was much MORE one side than the other, and so what you’re left with is…forcing critics to prove a negative.)
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:59 am
by randylahey
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:36 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:52 am
Ah of course, I should have considered that it was all only the Republicans fault yet again
Why speak in absolutes?
(I know why - it’s because you know the problem here was much MORE one side than the other, and so what you’re left with is…forcing critics to prove a negative.)
Because I'm a sith lord..
Come in jfish. Anyone who isn't blindly obedient to their "team" knows both teams are to blame for virtually every problem this country has
This whole "the Republicans are to blame for everything and the dems are saints" argument you always have is fucking stupid. Expand your thinking. The whole system is rotten at the core
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:00 am
by twocoach
KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:05 pm
it’s like he doesn’t even pay attention to what is actually happening in this country until his social media feed gets outraged
This. I hadn't heard one peep out of Randy about factory farming until RFKJr. told him it was a big deal.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:07 am
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:59 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:36 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:52 am
Ah of course, I should have considered that it was all only the Republicans fault yet again
Why speak in absolutes?
(I know why - it’s because you know the problem here was much MORE one side than the other, and so what you’re left with is…forcing critics to prove a negative.)
Because I'm a sith lord..
Come in jfish. Anyone who isn't blindly obedient to their "team" knows both teams are to blame for virtually every problem this country has
This whole "the Republicans are to blame for everything and the dems are saints" argument you always have is fucking stupid. Expand your thinking. The whole system is rotten at the core
Again, your issues with topicality.
The question isn’t “what is the main problem with American politics.” It’s “why did Fitch downgrade our credit rating.”
And the answer is the debt brinksmanship…which simply is an R problem.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:25 am
by TDub
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:07 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:59 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:36 am
Why speak in absolutes?
(I know why - it’s because you know the problem here was much MORE one side than the other, and so what you’re left with is…forcing critics to prove a negative.)
Because I'm a sith lord..
Come in jfish. Anyone who isn't blindly obedient to their "team" knows both teams are to blame for virtually every problem this country has
This whole "the Republicans are to blame for everything and the dems are saints" argument you always have is fucking stupid. Expand your thinking. The whole system is rotten at the core
Again, your issues with topicality.
The question isn’t “what is the main problem with American politics.” It’s “why did Fitch downgrade our credit rating.”
And the answer is the debt brinksmanship…which simply is an R problem.
its not though.
Yes the pubs held up the process by refusing to raise the debt ceiling again...
but the out of control spending, the printing money out of thin air f
to cover ridiculous things...
is a both sides problem. And that issue...is why we have to constantly raise the debt ceiling and is why the value of the dollar diminishes.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:57 am
by zsn
TDub wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:25 am
And that issue...is why we have to constantly raise the debt ceiling and is why the
value of the dollar diminishes.
Is it though? The value of the dollar is quite high, relative to most currencies (EUR, GBP, JPY, CNY, INR) and is at a recent high. The only exception is CHF.
Not too long ago, we were at $1.25 to EUR, $1.50 relative to GBP, 110 JPY and low 70s to INR. Now it’s $1.10 to EUR, $1.25 to GBP, 145 JPY and low 80s INR.
While some of it is the relative weakness of their economies, it’s objective evidence that our weakness is only a talking point.