Kansas Crimson

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:58 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:52 am If it's just offense, i'd have rather seen Jalen Coleman Lands at the moment.
He's shooting 25% from 3 but I can remember several of those that spiraled in and around the bucket and just spun out unfortunately.

I have faith Jalen will round into form and be more a factor eventually.

I also think he complements the other starters better. Lot's of redundancies between och Braun and wilson.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:17 am You guys aren't really giving up on Jalen after a few bad games are you?

He's quite clearly one of our 4 best players.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:22 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:58 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:52 am If it's just offense, i'd have rather seen Jalen Coleman Lands at the moment.
He's shooting 25% from 3 but I can remember several of those that spiraled in and around the bucket and just spun out unfortunately.

I have faith Jalen will round into form and be more a factor eventually.

I also think he complements the other starters better. Lot's of redundancies between och Braun and wilson.

JCL is even worse than Wilson defensively it appears.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:59 pm We lost so many assignments in the Dayton game.
Bill Self wanted to launch himself to the moon.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:56 am In Jalen’s first game back, he seemed to integrate pretty well right back into the team.

He had one bad game and apparently on a lot of shit lists because of it.

And while he’s more of a wing or forward than a guard, he still brings a net gain in terms of ball handling abilities.

He might also end up being the best slasher on the team.

And while I guess Harris has been reliable about certain things, I’m also concerned we’re once again giving big minutes to a guy who’s not a scoring threat, and the other team can get away with barely guarding him. even if he’s “reliable” or whatever, he’s still just not very productive

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:56 pm Yesefu feels like the x factor on this team. Our ceiling depends on how well he can fit in, because he is definitely one of our most talented players. Dajuan is the base line, a very sound role player who does what Bill wants.

If yesefu can keep getting better defensively and keep learning the offense and when to get his buckets within the offense, there is no reason he can't be playing big minutes before too long. He's just so damn explosive and talented as a scorer

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:57 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:56 pm Yesefu feels like the x factor on this team. Our ceiling depends on how well he can fit in, because he is definitely one of our most talented players. Dajuan is the base line, a very sound role player who does what Bill wants.

If yesefu can keep getting better defensively and keep learning the offense and when to get his buckets within the offense, there is no reason he can't be playing big minutes before too long. He's just so damn explosive and talented as a scorer

I'm curious what a lineup with him and Remy out there would look like. I don't think Yesefu has played any minutes at the point this year, and likely wouldn't along Remy, but it would be nice to see him along side someone other than Harris or Pettiford.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:56 pm Yesefu feels like the x factor on this team. Our ceiling depends on how well he can fit in, because he is definitely one of our most talented players. Dajuan is the base line, a very sound role player who does what Bill wants.

If yesefu can keep getting better defensively and keep learning the offense and when to get his buckets within the offense, there is no reason he can't be playing big minutes before too long. He's just so damn explosive and talented as a scorer

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:21 pm I wonder if we could be better off abandoning the reliable post scorer mindset.

Run the offense through the guards! Even if it means Dave is just setting screens, or - gasp - just going 5 out.

And while I guess Dajuan is a serviceable distributor and defender, I just dunno if he’s a statistically productive or eyetest complete enough player to warrant the kind of minutes he’s getting.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:21 pm I wonder if we could be better off abandoning the reliable post scorer mindset.

Run the offense through the guards! Even if it means Dave is just setting screens, or - gasp - just going 5 out.

And while I guess Dajuan is a serviceable distributor and defender, I just dunno if he’s a statistically productive or eyetest complete enough player to warrant the kind of minutes he’s getting.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:36 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:21 pm I wonder if we could be better off abandoning the reliable post scorer mindset.

Run the offense through the guards! Even if it means Dave is just setting screens, or - gasp - just going 5 out.

And while I guess Dajuan is a serviceable distributor and defender, I just dunno if he’s a statistically productive or eyetest complete enough player to warrant the kind of minutes he’s getting.

I think you might be thinking of it wrong.

Self doesn't want to go to the post every trip down the floor for 40 minutes. He's using it to set up all those other things that you want to do. It's like establishing the run so that your play action is more effective.

If the defense knows your going to the post, it opens the pick and roll game and cutters, etc.

Now, I don't know if Self is right and you have to go inside-out, but he's going inside to free up all the things you want.