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Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:52 pm
by HouseDivided
Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:38 pm
W here TH is the "Tweets That Age Well", thread?
#prescient
What is it they say about Schadenfreude and assholes?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:00 pm
by Deleted User 307
Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:38 pm
W here TH is the "Tweets That Age Well", thread?
#prescient
"Nobody could've predicted..."
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:02 pm
by jfish26
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:52 pm
Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:38 pm
W here TH is the "Tweets That Age Well", thread?
#prescient
What is it they say about Schadenfreude and assholes?
Everyone has one?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:17 pm
by Deleted User 307
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:02 pm
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:52 pm
Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:38 pm
W here TH is the "Tweets That Age Well", thread?
#prescient
What is it they say about Schadenfreude and assholes?
Everyone has one?
No, I think it was "To feel assholes is human, to savor schadenfreude is diabolic."
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:24 pm
by PhDhawk
Vega wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:17 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:02 pm
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:52 pm
What is it they say about Schadenfreude and assholes?
Everyone has one?
No, I think it was "To feel assholes is human, to savor schadenfreude is diabolic."
A broken Asshole is Schadenfreude twice a day.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:24 pm
by Deleted User 307
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:24 pm
Vega wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:17 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:02 pm
Everyone has one?
No, I think it was "To feel assholes is human, to savor schadenfreude is diabolic."
A broken Asshole is Schadenfreude twice a day.
Only after my third cup of coffee tho.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:18 pm
by DCHawk1
You guys know that the CDC budget was never cut, though, right?
And that the AHCA was never enacted?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:33 pm
by DCHawk1
Not good
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:58 pm
by DCHawk1
Ugh
https://platteriverradio.com/jbs-in-gra ... ty-spread/
Grand Island Mayor Roger Steele announced that the JBS Beef Plant has 10 confirmed cases of the coronavirus....
Teresa Anderson, Executive Director of the Central District Health Department, said there is spread of the virus in three long term care facilities.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:07 pm
by Shirley
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:18 pm
You guys know that the CDC budget was never cut, though, right?
And that the AHCA was never enacted?
Gee, lucky us, one political party managed to stop the other from cutting funding to the CDC,
our nation’s health protection agency.
But then, why in the world would we want to fund the CDC in the first place?
CDC Role:
Detecting and responding to new and emerging health threats
Tackling the biggest health problems causing death and disability for Americans
Putting science and advanced technology into action to prevent disease
Promoting healthy and safe behaviors, communities and environment
Developing leaders and training the public health workforce, including disease detectives
Taking the health pulse of our nation
Mission:
CDC works 24/7 to protect America from health, safety and security threats, both foreign and in the U.S. Whether diseases start at home or abroad, are chronic or acute, curable or preventable, human error or deliberate attack, CDC fights disease and supports communities and citizens to do the same.
CDC increases the health security of our nation. As the nation’s health protection agency, CDC saves lives and protects people from health threats. To accomplish our mission, CDC conducts critical science and provides health information that protects our nation against expensive and dangerous health threats, and responds when these arise.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:19 pm
by Shirley
It's been frustrating hearing conflicting information about the possibility that SARS-CoV-2 can be transmitted by aerosol, not only during coughing and sneezing, but also by speaking. Here's page one of three pages available at the link. If you read all three pages, the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, is of the opinion that it can.
Rapid Expert Consultation on the Possibility of Bioaerosol Spread of SARS-CoV-2 for the COVID-19 Pandemic (April 1, 2020)
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:29 pm
by Mjl
Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:07 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:18 pm
You guys know that the CDC budget was never cut, though, right?
And that the AHCA was never enacted?
Gee, lucky us, one political party managed to stop the other from cutting funding to the CDC,
our nation’s health protection agency.
But then, why in the world would we want to fund the CDC in the first place?
CDC Role:
Detecting and responding to new and emerging health threats
Tackling the biggest health problems causing death and disability for Americans
Putting science and advanced technology into action to prevent disease
Promoting healthy and safe behaviors, communities and environment
Developing leaders and training the public health workforce, including disease detectives
Taking the health pulse of our nation
Mission:
CDC works 24/7 to protect America from health, safety and security threats, both foreign and in the U.S. Whether diseases start at home or abroad, are chronic or acute, curable or preventable, human error or deliberate attack, CDC fights disease and supports communities and citizens to do the same.
CDC increases the health security of our nation. As the nation’s health protection agency, CDC saves lives and protects people from health threats. To accomplish our mission, CDC conducts critical science and provides health information that protects our nation against expensive and dangerous health threats, and responds when these arise.
And Trump did appoint the head of it. If you want to know his process for appointments, read The Fifth Risk.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:48 pm
by DCHawk1
Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:07 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:18 pm
You guys know that the CDC budget was never cut, though, right?
And that the AHCA was never enacted?
Gee, lucky us, one political party managed to stop the other from cutting funding to the CDC,
our nation’s health protection agency.
Oh.
ONe pArtY...blAh, BLaH, bLAh...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 114319002/
According to Bloomberg News, “after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.”...
During the presidency of Barack Obama, the national stockpile was seriously taxed as the administration addressed multiple crises over eight years. About "75 percent of N95 respirators and 25 percent of face masks contained in the CDC's Strategic National Stockpile (∼100 million products) were deployed for use in health care settings over the course of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic response," according to a 2017 study in the journal Health Security.
Again according to NIH, the stockpile's resources were also used during hurricanes Alex, Irene, Isaac and Sandy. Flooding in 2010 in North Dakota also called for stockpile funds to be deployed. The 2014 outbreaks of the ebola virus and botulism, as well as the 2016 outbreak of the zika virus, continued to significantly tax the stockpile with no serious effort from the Obama administration to replenish the fund
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:49 pm
by Mjl
What did these places do with the respirators after the crises? Just toss them?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:11 pm
by Geezer
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:40 pm
by Mjl
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:48 pm
Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:07 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:18 pm
You guys know that the CDC budget was never cut, though, right?
And that the AHCA was never enacted?
Gee, lucky us, one political party managed to stop the other from cutting funding to the CDC,
our nation’s health protection agency.
Oh.
ONe pArtY...blAh, BLaH, bLAh...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 114319002/
According to Bloomberg News, “after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.”...
During the presidency of Barack Obama, the national stockpile was seriously taxed as the administration addressed multiple crises over eight years. About "75 percent of N95 respirators and 25 percent of face masks contained in the CDC's Strategic National Stockpile (∼100 million products) were deployed for use in health care settings over the course of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic response," according to a 2017 study in the journal Health Security.
Again according to NIH, the stockpile's resources were also used during hurricanes Alex, Irene, Isaac and Sandy. Flooding in 2010 in North Dakota also called for stockpile funds to be deployed. The 2014 outbreaks of the ebola virus and botulism, as well as the 2016 outbreak of the zika virus, continued to significantly tax the stockpile with no serious effort from the Obama administration to replenish the fund
None of the backing sources say that the stockpile was never replenished. The fact check uses a recent Bloomberg article to reference it, which uses a report that never mentions anything about not replenishing after h1n1, and explicitly says different types of PPE were used for Ebola and Zika and Botulism.
Referencing a newspaper article is pretty lazy fact-checking by USA today.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:46 pm
by Geezer
Did DC just blame Obama?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:04 pm
by DCHawk1
Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:40 pm
None of the backing sources say that the stockpile was never replenished. The fact check uses a recent Bloomberg article to reference it, which uses a report that never mentions anything about not replenishing after h1n1, and explicitly says different types of PPE were used for Ebola and Zika and Botulism.
Referencing a newspaper article is pretty lazy fact-checking by USA today.
lulz...
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... rned-about
After the swine flu epidemic in 2009, a safety-equipment industry association and a federally sponsored task force both recommended that depleted supplies of N95 respirator masks, which filter out airborne particles, be replenished by the stockpile, which is maintained by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
That didn’t happen, according to Charles Johnson, president of the International Safety Equipment Assn.
The stockpile drew down about 100 million masks during the 2009 epidemic, Johnson said.
“Our association is unaware of any major effort to restore the stockpile to cover that drawdown,” he said.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:07 pm
by DCHawk1
Geezer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:46 pm
Did DC just blame Obama?
I don't actually give a shit either way.
bUt OnE ParTY!
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:22 pm
by Mjl
I'm skeptical. Why would they, when prompted, not re-supply? Obama certainly didn't seem to care much about spending, and certainly it wasn't done maliciously.
Is the suggestion that he just forgot?