Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:16 pm
The Supreme Court is stating that the NCAA doesn't really have the right to restrict the earnings of the athletes so why would it be OK to only do it to freshmen? If they don't have the right to restrict their earning potential then then they shouldn't be allowed to restrict freshmen.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:52 pmMy concern isn't students making other sources of income. (Particularly in ways unrelated to their sport, I think the Greg Anthony type of examples make the NCAA look extremely dumb). I have a problem with the notion that it shouldn't or can't be restricted. I think, at the very least, that the universities should not be involved in setting up deals for players...and they will immediately.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:46 pm NIL helps the non-revenue athletes, too. There are many female student athletes that should be able to profit off of their large social media following (even though that can be icky, they should still be able to get compensated for it).
I've said it before, but I think all you have to do is restrict endorsement deals to Sophomores and above and you avoid most of the problems that would come with using it as a recruiting tool, but no one seemed to agree with me.
Yeah, I don't agree with the SC's ruling.twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:17 pmThe Supreme Court is stating that the NCAA doesn't really have the right to restrict the earnings of the athletes so why would it be OK to only do it to freshmen? If they don't have the right to restrict their earning potential then then they shouldn't be allowed to restrict freshmen.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:52 pmMy concern isn't students making other sources of income. (Particularly in ways unrelated to their sport, I think the Greg Anthony type of examples make the NCAA look extremely dumb). I have a problem with the notion that it shouldn't or can't be restricted. I think, at the very least, that the universities should not be involved in setting up deals for players...and they will immediately.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:46 pm NIL helps the non-revenue athletes, too. There are many female student athletes that should be able to profit off of their large social media following (even though that can be icky, they should still be able to get compensated for it).
I've said it before, but I think all you have to do is restrict endorsement deals to Sophomores and above and you avoid most of the problems that would come with using it as a recruiting tool, but no one seemed to agree with me.
It's sort of weird how when you, like, build a condo tower on swampland, you're surprised when it falls down.In a major step, the NCAA Division I Council voted Monday to support an interim policy that would allow college athletes to profit off their name, image and likeness (NIL) without violating NCAA rules until federal legislation or new NCAA rules are adopted.
The Division I Board of Directors will meet Wednesday to review and vote on the recommendation.
In states that have passed NIL-related laws -- Alabama, Florida and Georgia, among others -- athletes would be able to participate in NIL activities that are "consistent with the laws."
For states without NIL laws, athletes will be able to freely engage in NIL activities, making money off signing autographs, or endorsement deals, but schools and conferences in those states, "may choose to adopt their own policies."
How long did it take the ncaa to transition from "this is too complicated to be able to do" to "here's our policy", about a week?jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:34 pm So, uh...I declare victory?
NCAA takes big step toward allowing athletes to profit from name, image or likeness
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/28/us/ncaa- ... index.html
It's sort of weird how when you, like, build a condo tower on swampland, you're surprised when it falls down.In a major step, the NCAA Division I Council voted Monday to support an interim policy that would allow college athletes to profit off their name, image and likeness (NIL) without violating NCAA rules until federal legislation or new NCAA rules are adopted.
The Division I Board of Directors will meet Wednesday to review and vote on the recommendation.
In states that have passed NIL-related laws -- Alabama, Florida and Georgia, among others -- athletes would be able to participate in NIL activities that are "consistent with the laws."
For states without NIL laws, athletes will be able to freely engage in NIL activities, making money off signing autographs, or endorsement deals, but schools and conferences in those states, "may choose to adopt their own policies."
Wait, I'm mixing my "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" examples-in-the-news.
It's been blisteringly obvious for years now that this day would come. Maybe - and stay with me here - maybe, the NCAA should have focused on how to make this work, rather than deploy its resources pretending this was anything but inevitable. And hurting a lot of kids along the way.twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:43 pmHow long did it take the ncaa to transition from "this is too complicated to be able to do" to "here's our policy", about a week?jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:34 pm So, uh...I declare victory?
NCAA takes big step toward allowing athletes to profit from name, image or likeness
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/28/us/ncaa- ... index.html
It's sort of weird how when you, like, build a condo tower on swampland, you're surprised when it falls down.In a major step, the NCAA Division I Council voted Monday to support an interim policy that would allow college athletes to profit off their name, image and likeness (NIL) without violating NCAA rules until federal legislation or new NCAA rules are adopted.
The Division I Board of Directors will meet Wednesday to review and vote on the recommendation.
In states that have passed NIL-related laws -- Alabama, Florida and Georgia, among others -- athletes would be able to participate in NIL activities that are "consistent with the laws."
For states without NIL laws, athletes will be able to freely engage in NIL activities, making money off signing autographs, or endorsement deals, but schools and conferences in those states, "may choose to adopt their own policies."
Wait, I'm mixing my "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" examples-in-the-news.
Pretty incredible what getting your ass handed to you by the Supreme Court can make possible.
That's just about the only part of this that doesn't surprise me. The ncaa has dug in their heels so far for so many decades that it was clear they were never going to change course without being forced to.
Well in terms of punishment, it is or should be all relevant. In the very worst light, the interpretation can suggest that KT had knowledge of 3rd party cash going to 2 recruits that in one case never played a second of basketball for KU and another that was held out and re-held out as soon as the NCAA notified KU.
You can say that again!NDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:41 pm Could also word it that the player only played after the NCAA, itself, cleared him to do so.
IIRC, KU immediately contacted NCAA after some of the trial stuff leaked and the NCAA wouldn't say one way or the other. So, KU played it safe and sat him out until the NCAA made the decision to drop the egregious 2 year hammer mid-season.