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NDballer13 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:41 pm Wonder when/if golf is going to suspend play again. Couple more positives today and a few more withdrawals. Oddly enough, all the positives are guys who left the site last week and didn't take the PGA charter flight. What's even more odd to me is these guys testing negative when they get to the course, and then positive a day or 2 later. Should be able to trace that pretty quickly.

I mean, I'm not sure why they'd suspend. It's not a team sport, where one guy is likely to get a bunch of others sick. There's no point to restarting any of these sports, but golf in particular, if you're going to suspend them once a couple guys get sick. Cost of doing business.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:51 am

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:41 pm Wonder when/if golf is going to suspend play again. Couple more positives today and a few more withdrawals. Oddly enough, all the positives are guys who left the site last week and didn't take the PGA charter flight. What's even more odd to me is these guys testing negative when they get to the course, and then positive a day or 2 later. Should be able to trace that pretty quickly.

I mean, I'm not sure why they'd suspend. It's not a team sport, where one guy is likely to get a bunch of others sick. There's no point to restarting any of these sports, but golf in particular, if you're going to suspend them once a couple guys get sick. Cost of doing business.

I agree, but like the NBA restart, I wouldn't be surprised if people who haven't tested positive start withdrawing just to avoid the risk. They have had 2 guys already test negative when they get to town only to test positive a few days later, after being in the so-called bubble. Sounds like all of the positives from this week, or at least most, were traced back to a funeral a couple guys attended in Florida last week. So, hopefully this was just an isolated case for the tour and we won't be seeing more positives each week.

I know he hasn't got an extension yet, but...woof, you've got to be able to do better than that.

Golf isn't going to shut down just because 6 guys have tested positive over the last 4 tournaments. There isn't really a "bubble" like the nba is doing. They can go out to eat and other things. The "bubble" exists at the actual courses and charter flights, and so far there has been no "community spread" between golfers.

People are going to test positive no matter what. Golf is the safest sport there is covid19 wise. Individual sport played outside with large distances between players for the majority of rounds. The golfers who have pulled out voluntarily (brooks koepka and webb simpson) did so to protect their fellow golfers from what they deemed as potential exposure (koepkas caddy tested positive, and webb had a family member test positive who he had been in contact with....webb is back this week and testing negative)....another golfer Jason day felt sick, so he played as a single while waiting for his test results that ended up negative (he is also playing this week). The golfers catching covid19 are being exposed off the course doing other things it appears.

Football on the other hand has no chance of being done successfully imo. I have my doubts about basketball and baseball as well. Basketball is going to do a real bubble but will the players follow the rules? Doubt it.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:13 pm Golf isn't going to shut down just because 6 guys have tested positive over the last 4 tournaments. There isn't really a "bubble" like the nba is doing. They can go out to eat and other things. The "bubble" exists at the actual courses and charter flights, and so far there has been no "community spread" between golfers.

People are going to test positive no matter what. Golf is the safest sport there is covid19 wise. Individual sport played outside with large distances between players for the majority of rounds. The golfers who have pulled out voluntarily (brooks koepka and webb simpson) did so to protect their fellow golfers from what they deemed as potential exposure (koepkas caddy tested positive, and webb had a family member test positive who he had been in contact with....webb is back this week and testing negative)....another golfer Jason day felt sick, so he played as a single while waiting for his test results that ended up negative (he is also playing this week). The golfers catching covid19 are being exposed off the course doing other things it appears.

Football on the other hand has no chance of being done successfully imo. I have my doubts about basketball and baseball as well. Basketball is going to do a real bubble but will the players follow the rules? Doubt it.

Did you watch any of the TBT this weekend? They mentioned how strict their bubble was, and somehow someone tested positive after being in the extremely isolated bubble for almost a week while testing negative multiple times since being in said bubble. No one in, no one out. No interacting with other teams outside of games. Masks worn at all times unless during a practice/game.

This was essentially as corona-proof as a place could be and it still somehow got in there. After hearing that I have zero faith that any "bubble" will be any more effective than just going about your life while taking precautions. In the end, as I've felt all along, it's still a virus. It will always be around. Shutting everything down will just delay the inevitable. Not overwhelming the hospitals is still the goal. People who think they can just lock themselves in their house and wait it out are just hopelessly waiting for nothing. You can't live in fear of something you can't control.

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:43 pm

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:13 pm Golf isn't going to shut down just because 6 guys have tested positive over the last 4 tournaments. There isn't really a "bubble" like the nba is doing. They can go out to eat and other things. The "bubble" exists at the actual courses and charter flights, and so far there has been no "community spread" between golfers.

People are going to test positive no matter what. Golf is the safest sport there is covid19 wise. Individual sport played outside with large distances between players for the majority of rounds. The golfers who have pulled out voluntarily (brooks koepka and webb simpson) did so to protect their fellow golfers from what they deemed as potential exposure (koepkas caddy tested positive, and webb had a family member test positive who he had been in contact with....webb is back this week and testing negative)....another golfer Jason day felt sick, so he played as a single while waiting for his test results that ended up negative (he is also playing this week). The golfers catching covid19 are being exposed off the course doing other things it appears.

Football on the other hand has no chance of being done successfully imo. I have my doubts about basketball and baseball as well. Basketball is going to do a real bubble but will the players follow the rules? Doubt it.

Did you watch any of the TBT this weekend? They mentioned how strict their bubble was, and somehow someone tested positive after being in the extremely isolated bubble for almost a week while testing negative multiple times since being in said bubble. No one in, no one out. No interacting with other teams outside of games. Masks worn at all times unless during a practice/game.

This was essentially as corona-proof as a place could be and it still somehow got in there. After hearing that I have zero faith that any "bubble" will be any more effective than just going about your life while taking precautions. In the end, as I've felt all along, it's still a virus. It will always be around. Shutting everything down will just delay the inevitable. Not overwhelming the hospitals is still the goal. People who think they can just lock themselves in their house and wait it out are just hopelessly waiting for nothing. You can't live in fear of something you can't control.

I am not necessarily saying the golf bubble (which isnt really a bubble since guys go home and don't play every week) is going to prevent people from getting it. My main thought is that it is an invidual sport and the players can stay away from each other much easier and 1 guy getting it is yet to result in that player/caddy spreading it to anyone else so far.

I also have my doubts about how truly strict "the tournament" bubble is since it isn't an organization similar to the nba or pga...plus if they were only in there for a week and symtoms can take up to 2 weeks before showing or making someone test positive then it isn't a huge surprise if someone came into the bubble having already been exposed.

TBT is saying once you leave the hotel you are disqualified from the tourney and not allowed back in the building. It is quite literally no one in, no one out. You can't even have a pizza delivered. I have no reason to believe they just made that up without enforcing it, lol.

That's also the first time I've heard it can take up to two weeks after someone has the virus before they finally test positive. It was that player's 6th test in a span of 2 weeks in isolation and the only one to be positive? I'm far more likely to believe it was a false positive than he had this virus in him for 2 weeks that went undetected by 5 previous tests.

I agree with the golf though. You can have the PGA without putting the players at great risk due to the fact they are almost always more than 10 feet apart from each other anyway. Same can't be said for every other sport. Bubble or no bubble.

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:13 am
That's also the first time I've heard it can take up to two weeks after someone has the virus before they finally test positive. It was that player's 6th test in a span of 2 weeks in isolation and the only one to be positive? I'm far more likely to believe it was a false positive than he had this virus in him for 2 weeks that went undetected by 5 previous tests.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... he%20virus.

Maybe I am misinterpreting that. Says 2-14 days after exposure for symptoms to appear....a different cdc link says that in the early stages of infection a person can test negative. I am assuming early stages means before symptoms begin to show, but also that you can have no symptoms and test positive as well.

1st major of the year....finally.

@ TPC Harding Park in California. Hard municipal golf course. Pretty long. Rough is nasty.

My favorites:

The usual suspects....

Justin Thomas: has 3 wins this year. #1 player in the world again. Has the length it will take to win. Great short game. Ability to make putts when it counts.

Brooks Koepka: has played like shit until last week. But his record in the last 10 majors is unreal. Found a little something last week. Switched back to his old driver. Does his best and tries harder in majors for some reason.

Tiger Woods: never say never. Hasnt really played since lockdown. Best long iron player of all time....wouldnt even consider him except i have watched a lot of his range sessions and practice loops and his back looks healthy this week. Moving well. Short game around the greens is elite. Just needs to make putts and has a new putter in his bag (although it is nearly identical to the putter he has used to win most of his majors).

Patrick Reed: he is always up and down. Has enough length and is one of the best short game players in the world. This course has several right to left doglegs that should fit his eye since he hits a draw.

Dont love Rory this week. He can always win if he gets hot but he has been unimpressive since lockdown ended....dont love DJ. Has been up and down even with his recent win. Not a great putter, not a great chipper.....dont love bryson either here. Obviously loads of length, but short game is suspect at times. I think he will be overthinking guessing yardages after playing loads of hot weather golf recently, but if he plays well he can definitely win.

Others:

Gary Woodland has had success in this part of the country....course sets up well for him...sort of been up and down, but says he fixed his ball striking issue that has made him inconsistent since lockdown ended. Also has a good 1st 2days pairing with brooks and shane lowery.

Jordan Speith: his driving sucks but his short game is special. He seems to do better in majors. Eventually he is going to break out of his funk. Can complete the career grand slam with a win this week.

Daniel Berger: has played awesome in 2020 before and after lockdown. Can win if he has a good week.

Tony Finau: tons of length. Puts himself in position to win constantly but always has trouble closing the deal. Eventually he is going to win 1. Needs to chip and putt well which isnt his strength but he is streaky and can get hot.

Some other hot golfers: Tyrell Hatton, Webb Simpson, Abe Ancer.

My FanDuel picks

Rory - For the reason you mentioned. I think he gets hot and no crowd while matched with Tiger helps him I think.
JT - Hottest player on tour
Spieth - He always brings it for majors
Ancer - Consistent player. Fan of him since I saw him at Web.com event in Wichita.
Hadwin - Makes almost every single cut no matter the tournament.
Dahmen - I just like him for some reason. He's not great, but I think he has potential to do well.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:30 pm My FanDuel picks

Rory - For the reason you mentioned. I think he gets hot and no crowd while matched with Tiger helps him I think.
JT - Hottest player on tour
Spieth - He always brings it for majors
Ancer - Consistent player. Fan of him since I saw him at Web.com event in Wichita.
Hadwin - Makes almost every single cut no matter the tournament.
Dahmen - I just like him for some reason. He's not great, but I think he has potential to do well.

My DK picks vary since i do multiple lineups but pretty much all come from this pool: JT, Brooks, Rory, Webb, Tiger (1 lineup), reed, speith, hatton, ancer, garcia, berger, finau, stenson...with 1 lineup with fowler, 1 with kuchar, 1 with champ, and 1 with Bzeidunhult (not how its spelled i am sure).

Love joel dahmen too. Pick him often. Didnt go that deep since many of my lineups are more balanced this week rather than a "stars and scrubs" type build...not that he is a scrub but you know what i mean.

well so much for hard conditions. These guys are tearing this course up with the warm temp and no wind.

Gary doing well. Just had a bad 3 putt par after hitting a par 5 in 2. But he looks solid.

Have heard wind would come up this afternoon. Early guys got the good end of the day.

Scottie Scheffler freaking swings out of his shoes man. He goes for it all the time. Gary has looked pretty good. Rory nice bounceback after 3 straight bogeys.

I forgot how good Zach Johnson is with his short game.

Tiger with 2 nice birdies down the stretch to end just a few shots off the lead. Just imagine if he was accurate off the tee. He bombed the shit out of the ball, but was hacking out of the rough so much.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:45 pm Tiger with 2 nice birdies down the stretch to end just a few shots off the lead. Just imagine if he was accurate off the tee. He bombed the shit out of the ball, but was hacking out of the rough so much.

Ya. When he is in the fairway he is still elite with his iron play.

It still blows my goddamned mind that with everything going on, they can't televise every fucking hole.

It truly is remarkable Fish.