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Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:02 pm
by Deleted User 141
Leawood wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:47 am
And why can't we just compliment Villanova on a good win. Their defense on the last drive was great.
Pussy.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:11 pm
by Deleted User 104
Dotson is amazing. He just had a bad game yesterday. Let's not read into it.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:03 pm
by ramjet
this is going to be a crazy fun season and tournament. There are probably 10 teams now that would project to be 1 seeds, and another 10 project to be 2 seeds. Lots of upsets to come...
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:30 pm
by twocoach
lobster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:11 pm
Dotson is amazing. He just had a bad game yesterday. Let's not read into it.
In games vs. the 3 best teams we have played (Duke, Dayton and Nova) Dotson has 15 turnovers. If you extend it out to tourney teams and include Colorado and ETSU (currently 1st in their conf) then he has 22 turnovers in those 5 games.
But I guess we can just ignore that. Dotson is excellent at many things but this team, this year, with Dotson in his sophomore season will not reach it's potential unless he gets that problem cleaned up. I certainly hope he can and definitely believe he can.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:20 pm
by Deleted User 104
Yeah, he's got to work on his game against good competition. He'll have plenty of chances on the road to strengthen his game. Such a shame that this will be his last year because he's so quick and fun to watch.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:33 pm
by Geezer
Such a shame that this will be his last year
HOT TAKE
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:58 am
by twocoach
We all know he's leaving after this year, right? No one seriously believes that he is gonna come back and work on all the things he needs to get better at, do they?
Self was right, too many good players leaving too early has watered down the sport this year.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:41 am
by Deleted User 289
How much does he get paid to come back and work on all the things he needs to get better at?
How much does he get paid if he goes pro and works on all the things he needs to get better at?
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:29 am
by TDub
How long until the next game so this thread can die?
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:42 am
by Sparko
If KU can stop inert white guy threes, they will beat Villanova in the Final Four. 6-12 points. And that translates to having a healthy Garrett. But, on to a new thread , , ,
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:33 am
by NDballer13
twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:30 pm
lobster wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:11 pm
Dotson is amazing. He just had a bad game yesterday. Let's not read into it.
In games vs. the 3 best teams we have played (Duke, Dayton and Nova) Dotson has 15 turnovers. If you extend it out to tourney teams and include Colorado and ETSU (currently 1st in their conf) then he has 22 turnovers in those 5 games.
But I guess we can just ignore that. Dotson is excellent at many things but this team, this year, with Dotson in his sophomore season will not reach it's potential unless he gets that problem cleaned up. I certainly hope he can and definitely believe he can.
20 points, 53% shooting, 4 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals also over those 5 games. I'm not saying he has been perfect, but if your biggest complaint is the ONLY legit ball handler averaging 4 turnovers a game against the best teams, I would take that considering all the good that comes with that. Not to mention 2 of the games you mentioned he had 3 turnovers. It's not like he's going out there and throwing the ball in the stands all the time and turning it over 10 times.
In the grand scheme of things, Dotson's turnovers aren't really that close to top of the my list of things that could cause this team to lose.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:47 pm
by twocoach
Really? Because they seem to me to be one of the biggest negative drivers of the games that we have lost so far this season.
By no means am I saying he sucks (which is how any negative critique of any past or present KU player seems to be received here). I just see it and Dok's inability to be played down the stretch of tight games to be the biggest obstacles in their journey towards reaching their ceiling. In this relatively down year in college hoops, that ceiling is a national title. They just cant have their leading scorer, who is also their primary ball handler, gagging it up so often. We arent good enough at three point shooting to hide that flaw if it happens.
I am a firm believer that a team takes on the characteristics of their leader and if their leader is turnover prone under pressure then the entire team will be turnover prone. They are especially contagious.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:04 pm
by kcmokufan
Tyshaun was a turnover machine for half his senior season and then he was a complete stud. I'm not to worried about Dotson.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:03 pm
by NDballer13
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:47 pm
They just cant have their leading scorer, who is also their primary ball handler, gagging it up so often.
This is what I mean. He's turning it over at a lower rate than guys like Cassius Winston, Tre Jones, Ashton Hagans, and Ty Haliburton (who is supposed to be the best in the country at protecting the ball). Would you say those guys have turnover issues?
Roughly 75 possessions a game. Assume he handles the ball for 70 of them. For being the only ball handler, playing the amount of minutes he plays, the number of possessions in a game, is 4 times really "gagging it up so often"?
Dotson will be fine.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:02 pm
by TDub
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:03 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:47 pm
They just cant have their leading scorer, who is also their primary ball handler, gagging it up so often.
Twocoach is an idiot.
Dotson will be fine.
There, saved you a whole lot of typing.
After 2coach argues the same thing 27 more times you can just grab this quote and not have to re-prove your very valid and reasonable point every time.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:57 am
by twocoach
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:03 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:47 pm
They just cant have their leading scorer, who is also their primary ball handler, gagging it up so often.
This is what I mean. He's turning it over at a lower rate than guys like Cassius Winston, Tre Jones, Ashton Hagans, and Ty Haliburton (who is supposed to be the best in the country at protecting the ball). Would you say those guys have turnover issues?
Roughly 75 possessions a game. Assume he handles the ball for 70 of them. For being the only ball handler, playing the amount of minutes he plays, the number of possessions in a game, is 4 times really "gagging it up so often"?
Dotson will be fine.
Three of those 4 guys are on pace to lead their team to the NIT if they dont get their act together so maybe not the best examples...
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:58 am
by twocoach
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:02 pm
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:03 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:47 pm
They just cant have their leading scorer, who is also their primary ball handler, gagging it up so often.
Twocoach is an idiot.
Dotson will be fine.
There, saved you a whole lot of typing.
After 2coach argues the same thing 27 more times you can just grab this quote and not have to re-prove your very valid and reasonable point every time.
You guys say that all the KU problems "will be fine" at this time of year every year. When was the last time you were actually right, 2008?
Oh, I forgot "so long as we dont run into a hot shooting white guy". Yeah, that's what gets us...
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:58 am
by TDub
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:02 pm
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:03 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:47 pm
They just cant have their leading scorer, who is also their primary ball handler, gagging it up so often.
Twocoach is an idiot.
Dotson will be fine.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:46 am
by MICHHAWK
“You guys say that all the KU problems "will be fine" at this time of year every year. When was the last time you were actually right, 2008?”
We lose the game right before Christmas a good portion. Those of us that are paying attention saw that loss coming a mile away.
You should try paying attention some time.
Re: Official KU vs Villanova Game Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:21 am
by MICHHAWK
It’s unrealistic to demand that the children be at their peak best every time they take the floor.
Are you at your peak best everyday?