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Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:54 am
by Deleted User 89
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:52 am
the teets gotten a lot bigger since uncle joe came to town.
the teet hasn’t changed, just those allowed to suckle
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:11 am
by ousdahl
How about employers pay wages better than literal pandemic relief funds, and see how many folks are still lazy.
And considering how much in freeloading handouts the gummint has granted to businesses, I just dunno how anyone can vilify working class Mericans who are just trying to not get behind on rent.
But leave it to the temporarily embarrassed millionaire mich, and his crusade against the welfare queens.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:16 am
by ousdahl
If a bidness came out and said, “hey we’re raising prices on consumers so that we can pay more competitive wages to our employees,” would there really be a backlash?
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:30 am
by MICHHAWK
more pandemic theater.
lemme guess. you're sitting in your apartment. all alone. with a mask on. amirite.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:40 am
by Deleted User 880
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:52 am
the teets gotten a lot bigger since uncle joe came to town.
Really? Can/will you please elaborate for me - and others?
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:42 am
by ousdahl
^^^
Yeah, can we get some more posts about these big teats please? Maybe even with pics?
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:08 am
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:16 am
If a bidness came out and said, “hey we’re raising prices on consumers so that we can pay more competitive wages to our employees,” would there really be a backlash?
Yes
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:11 am
by ousdahl
How sad is that?
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:14 am
by TDub
Not as sad as you think. Why do you think the world should exist to take care of everybody.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:18 am
by Deleted User 863
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:46 am
don't blame it on the fungus. a certain % were lazy before the pandemic. they can be lazy and flush during the pandemic. they will still be lazy after the pandemic.
can't blame everything on the fungus. those that want to work, work. those that don't, don't.
There is a lot of truth in that.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:41 am
by Deleted User 89
MJ23 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:40 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:52 am
the teets gotten a lot bigger since uncle joe came to town.
Really? Can/will you please elaborate for me - and others?
i guarantee that trump’s man-boobs are bigger than biden’s
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:42 am
by PhDhawk
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:16 am
If a bidness came out and said, “hey we’re raising prices on consumers so that we can pay more competitive wages to our employees,” would there really be a backlash?
yeah, but if every company does this, and all prices go up, then your raise is meaningless, it's called inflation.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:44 am
by Deleted User 89
TDub wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:14 am
Not as sad as you think. Why do you think the world should exist to take care of everybody.
um, it’s called society/community
ever hear the saying, “It takes a village...”?
i wonder where it came from, and why it has persisted?
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:50 am
by ousdahl
One part of the question is, what portion of a business’s wealth generated should go to the employees who helped to generate it?
Cuz thus far, don’t think anyone has suggested, hey maybe job creators could offer better wages, without even raising consumer prices either, if they didn’t keep so much of the spoils to themselves.
At my employer, at least, we went through months of meeting about how to attract and retain employees in positions without just offering better wages. After exhausting all other selling points, the owner begrudgingly agreed, though not once did he say he was reluctant to offer better wages cuz he couldn’t afford to.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:57 am
by ousdahl
TDub wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:14 am
Not as sad as you think. Why do you think the world should exist to take care of everybody.
Why do you think the world should exist to allow selfish assholes to exploit everybody else?
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:00 am
by PhDhawk
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:50 am
One part of the question is, what portion of a business’s wealth generated should go to the employees who helped to generate it?
Cuz thus far, don’t think anyone has suggested, hey maybe job creators could offer better wages, without even raising consumer prices either, if they didn’t keep so much of the spoils to themselves.
At my employer, at least, we went through months of meeting about how to attract and retain employees in positions without just offering better wages. After exhausting all other selling points, the owner begrudgingly agreed, though not once did he say he was reluctant to offer better wages cuz he couldn’t afford to.
Right, I hate it when you see that executives make like 10,000X more than the average employee. It's gross. And I don't think it makes much sense.
I think the CEO of a company should make significantly more than say an entry level cashier, but the disparity has been pushed way beyond the point it should be at.
I've said for a long time, I think the business world has ignored the baseball stat WAR. We credit CEO's with way too much. "This guy managed that $25 million merger! we can't afford to loose him" but if it's in a situation where an average executive would have done something similar, or perhaps even better, we're giving the sitting CEO too much credit.
Also, I think there's a fucked up notion about entry level employees being expendible, because "I can hire 10 more people to fill your spot by the end of the day." But I think what they miss in saying that is, yeah, you can easily replace one, but if you employ 1,000 entry level workers, you can't replace them all at once...there's value in numbers. The flip side of that is when hiring an executive, there aren't as many people capable of doing the job, but what has been ignored is you only need to find ONE person to do it.
Fuck, look at the KU football HC gig. It's a pile of shit job (as P5 HC gigs go) and we had a line of qualified candidates. I'm pretty sure the same holds for corporate America as well.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:07 am
by ousdahl
Well said.
I love when phd and I agree.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:07 am
by ousdahl
If you could make everybody poor
just so you could be rich
Would you do it?
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:18 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:50 am
One part of the question is, what portion of a business’s wealth generated should go to the employees who helped to generate it?
And you think the government should decide that? LOL
Don't work for companies that don't have business ethics you agree with.
Re: Strikes
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:19 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:07 am
If you could make everybody poor
just so you could be rich
Would you do it?
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!
If you could make everyone poor just so that nobody was rich...would you do it?