Kansas Crimson

I mean, Lawrence is incredible. He would have been #2 last year, easily.

Ohio State has a really bad track record with QBs transitioning to the NFL. Like really bad.

North Dakota St kid needs to improve his passing a ton. He's a very run-based guy. Think Josh Allen but not as advanced passing.

Trask is the best QB to come out of Florida in a long damn time. The most pure pocket passer of the QB group outside of Lawrence. Takes care of the ball big time, high completion percentage and a really good TD/INT ratio. I would take him over Fields or the Lance from NDSU.

Is anyone nervous that Lawrence has been surrounded by ELITE level talent during his entire time at Clemson and what will happen when he joins a team like the Jets or Jags that don't.

I dunno. Has Clemson produced elite NFL talent on offense since Watson and Hopkins left? Not really..

I get what you're saying, but it's not like Clemson is pumping out 1st rounder after 1st rounder on offense every year. The defensive guys are the biggest commodities. Last 3 draft, the highest Clemson Tiger took in the draft on offense was this past year with Tee Higgins going in the 3rd round to Cincy.

I think that proves how good Lawrence is. He's doing it with guys that are not highly regarded in the NFL scouts eyes.

Even if Lawrence plays for the Jets, every single one of his teammates will be an NFL player.

Is bet money the Lawrence is a bust in the NFL. The track record for QB’s who played for Top 5-10 college teams is not great. Winning every game in college by 35+ points doesn’t really prepare you for the struggles that will come in the NFL.

There are some exceptions but the best QB’s didn’t play for premier college teams

Brady (exception but also 6th round pick)
Mahomes
Brees
Wilson
Big Ben
Rodgers
Prescott
Ryan
Allen
Rivers

They all won a ton of games, though, at the college level. Exception might be Josh Allen.

What NFL QB's were big losers in college? Cutler automatically comes to mind.

Mahomes

4-8
7-6
5-7

I just looked up Tannehill and the only season he was a full-time QB and not a WR was his senior year where he went 7-6 and finished 7th in Big 12.

Not great but was able to muster a 61-7 win against Turner Gill.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:24 pm Mahomes

4-8
7-6
5-7

Gosh, I knew they weren't like 10 win teams, but the 4 and 5 win numbers seem really low compared to the rest of the QB's.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:24 pm Mahomes

4-8
7-6
5-7

I assume you and others realize Mahomes wasn't the primary QB for TT in 2014.

Grandma wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:01 pm

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:24 pm Mahomes

4-8
7-6
5-7

I assume you and others realize Mahomes wasn't the primary QB for TT in 2014.

Yes

TT went 1-6 in games Mahomes played in.

TT went 1-2 in games he started

TT went 0-1 in games he played significant minutes in but didn’t play all the snaps


Happy now?

Yes, I am happy now.
Thanks for looking up and providing the details!

Has to be longest non-TD run by QB in NFL history?

Fastest QB has run since 2018. Faster than Lamar and others.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:10 pm Has to be longest non-TD run by QB in NFL history?

Bono is still in the middle of this run 25 years later.

"Has to be longest non-TD run by QB in NFL history?"

Seems so.
The longest non scoring play by any position belongs to Hap Moran, who had a 91-yard run but didn't score in 1930.
Barry Sanders has 2 in the top 5 - with an 85 yard run and 84 yard run.

In 2010, Jamal Charles had an 80 yard run and didn't score.

That DB is fast as shit b/c Jamaal was a blur.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:37 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:10 pm Has to be longest non-TD run by QB in NFL history?

Bono is still in the middle of this run 25 years later.

I remember that. One of the few good plays we got out of him.

I can't believe he lost balance and fell without being touched.

Also, they barfed up that 4th quarter lead and lost.