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Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:49 am Wilson's really fast and coordinated, especially with the ball in his hands, for a 6'8" dude. I think he's a pro if he improves his shooting.

He absolutely has to shoot. His strengths at this level are very average at the next level for the position he will play.

His frigid start ( shooting ) may keep him in college another year which is good for us.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:54 am how different things might be if not for the DUI

I don't buy into that unless it took a toll on him mentally that we don't know about. I don't think it would have caused him to regress. He still was allowed to practice.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:55 am

Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:49 am Wilson's really fast and coordinated, especially with the ball in his hands, for a 6'8" dude. I think he's a pro if he improves his shooting.

He absolutely has to shoot. His strengths at this level are very average at the next level for the position he will play.

Which i think is maybe the hardest position to play in the NBA right now for a guy with average to slightly below average athleticism.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:58 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:54 am how different things might be if not for the DUI

I don't buy into that unless it took a toll on him mentally that we don't know about. I don't think it would have caused him to regress. He still was allowed to practice.

Just look at his numbers coming off the bench after a delayed start to the season, vs starting again now

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:58 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:54 am how different things might be if not for the DUI

I don't buy into that unless it took a toll on him mentally that we don't know about. I don't think it would have caused him to regress. He still was allowed to practice.

he’s a kid

loosing his starting spot, and then being relegated to practicing with the second squad absolutely had an impact on him

and that’s just the things we know about. the more personal ramifications of it we’ll likely never know

I don't agree with this.
( and yes, I am thinking of the NBA, not college )

"with average to slightly below average athleticism"

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:00 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:58 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:54 am how different things might be if not for the DUI

I don't buy into that unless it took a toll on him mentally that we don't know about. I don't think it would have caused him to regress. He still was allowed to practice.

Just look at his numbers coming off the bench after a delayed start to the season, vs starting again now

Are you saying he didn't start as continued punishment? Or his play?

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:01 am I don't agree with this.
( and yes, I am thinking of the NBA, not college )

"with average to slightly below average athleticism"

He isn't especially long and he can't jump especially high. His speed looks a lot more average by NBA standards.

i favor jw coming back to KANSAS next year..................................and from what i have seen so far, i am pretty confident that he will.

For his height, I think his speed is above average.
Maybe he isn't leaping out of the gym but his rebounding %'s per minute are eye popping.
Jumping has to do with rebounding.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:06 am For his height, I think his speed is above average.
Maybe he isn't leaping out of the gym but his rebounding %'s per minute are eye popping.

That's partly because he's been surrounded by big guys who aren't elite rebounders....he isn't getting a lot of those rebounds in the NBA. He gets a lot of them below the rim at KU.

What position are you expecting him to play in the NBA?

He's a perfect NBA 3 if he can be a 35-40% three point shooter.

Perfect as in average for the NBA.

Jalen is so damn good at rebounding no matter who he plays next to, but it is a little surprising, and a testament to his anticipation, positioning, and feel for the game, because they are all well below the rim.

Forward.

Yeah.

Any pro success for Jalen is cuz his feel and skillset are polished enough to make up for his below the rim athleticism.

But, I still just don't see it. I've never thought of Jalen as a shooter, maybe that completely changes and guys like Paul Millsap created a shot out of nowhere to extend their NBA life by a decade.

I think up-and-down athleticism does matter quite a bit in the NBA. It's a different game all the way up there.

He's gotta find his shot for sure -- it's why I don't think he can leave now.
I think it's there, his form is good enough.

In a sport where teams work with less set positions, he could be an interesting piece off the bench in 2nd units.

I'll also say, to me, he's closer to his 3 point shooting numbers from his freshman year than what he is this season. That won't change what he's done this year ( i think he'll shoot around that from January on out ) - but I'd wager, if he came back for his junior year, he'd be around 38-40%.

I will say, I was hoping CB would be torching it from deep a little more by now.

To go from .340 to .351 (so far) isnt quite the leap I (or scouts) wanna see.

In contrast, Och went from .377 to .473 so far, nom nom nom