Kansas Crimson

japhy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:04 am

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:42 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:22 am

I mean, I get it. However, and it pains me to say, they're going to give it to Tang. kstate was voted last by a wide margin. He took on a brand new team and if they win Saturday, they're going to be the 2 seed in KC. Impressive.

KU was 1 first place vote behind Baylor and 4 overall points behind Baylor. But Scott Drew sucks and people should know this by now.

Oh, I fully realize it'll be Tang and I get why he's a candidate -- they were supposed to suck and then didn't but still will finish 2nd-4th.

I think Self's argument is better after what he did last season, what he lost and what he was able to do again.

That's all well and good but you will never be able to defeat the national brand media hype machine that is Hooterville Nation.

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:43 pm k-state was picked to finish last in the b12, ku fifth in the country. who did the better job?

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:07 pm

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:43 pm k-state was picked to finish last in the b12, ku fifth in the country. who did the better job?

In the Big 12?
Bill Self.
He did the best job -- we won the dang thing.

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:22 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:07 pm

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:43 pm k-state was picked to finish last in the b12, ku fifth in the country. who did the better job?

In the Big 12?
Bill Self.
He did the best job -- we won the dang thing.

i could agree with you. what's the basis though, idk? bill is a fantastic coach with loads of talent meeting expectations, wins another crown. tang gets some dudes, changes culture, exceeds expectations. someone has to say: here are the parameters. i've never seen them. either would be a solid choice. tang will win it.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:24 pm he deserves to win it.

agreed.

japhy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:04 am
That's all well and good but you will never be able to defeat the national brand media hype machine that is Hooterville Nation.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:02 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:10 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:35 am I really don't see UK ending up with Scott Drew as their head coach.

Me neither. But if they are looking for someone who is a polar opposite of Cal, Drew would certainly be a good candidate.

Sort of. They've both got "used car salesman" vibes. Cal sells mock draft porn. Drew sells sweet baby Jesus.

AlOerter wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:55 pm

japhy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:04 am
That's all well and good but you will never be able to defeat the national brand media hype machine that is Hooterville Nation.

I've been thinking about posting a Tang ad like that all season. LOL.

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:43 pm k-state was picked to finish last in the b12, ku fifth in the country. who did the better job?

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:22 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:07 pm

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:43 pm k-state was picked to finish last in the b12, ku fifth in the country. who did the better job?

In the Big 12?
Bill Self.
He did the best job -- we won the dang thing.

i could agree with you. what's the basis though, idk? bill is a fantastic coach with loads of talent meeting expectations, wins another crown. tang gets some dudes, changes culture, exceeds expectations. someone has to say: here are the parameters. i've never seen them. either would be a solid choice. tang will win it.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:22 pm Why's this fucking dipshit think his posts should be in italics?

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:03 pm

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:22 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:07 pm

In the Big 12?
Bill Self.
He did the best job -- we won the dang thing.

i could agree with you. what's the basis though, idk? bill is a fantastic coach with loads of talent meeting expectations, wins another crown. tang gets some dudes, changes culture, exceeds expectations. someone has to say: here are the parameters. i've never seen them. either would be a solid choice. tang will win it.

You went on and on AND ON about what a great culture Weber had. It was this great source of pride that you honked here (and the ISU boards, and the Mizzou boards and who knows where else) so how specifically did Tang change the culture?

Spare me.

Tang has done a nice job letting Nowell and Johnson get theirs in ISO. Awesome coaching job there.

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:13 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:03 pm

surly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:22 pm

i could agree with you. what's the basis though, idk? bill is a fantastic coach with loads of talent meeting expectations, wins another crown. tang gets some dudes, changes culture, exceeds expectations. someone has to say: here are the parameters. i've never seen them. either would be a solid choice. tang will win it.

You went on and on AND ON about what a great culture Weber had. It was this great source of pride that you honked here (and the ISU boards, and the Mizzou boards and who knows where else) so how specifically did Tang change the culture?

Spare me.

Tang has done a nice job letting Nowell and Johnson get theirs in ISO. Awesome coaching job there.

i don't know what your weber cultural reference is attempting to say? i liked bruce. he won a couple of championships. he ran a clean program. that was different than frank martin. so, if that's the cultural change, i plead guilty.

tang has brought a completely different brand of hoops and a faith-based approach to recruiting and developing players. he stopped the f'ku chant. he's developed an unheard of closeness to the student body. he's recruiting high level dudes. yes, those are all cultural change. he's a beloved figure. very different from weber's tenure.