Kansas Crimson

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:35 am Jesus did feel bad for the poor and unfortunate so maybe tang's there forever.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:52 am "And the tradition of excellence is there for the taking"

Sounds like the delusion is still suffocating.

surly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:54 am

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:52 am "And the tradition of excellence is there for the taking"

Sounds like the delusion is still suffocating.

It wasn't yesterday, but until one Larry Brown came to KU, K-State was a dominate program. Larry and the miracles lost twice to Lonnie's Cats.

surly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:42 am Huggins once said: why settle for second when first is available?

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:08 pm

surly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:54 am

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:52 am "And the tradition of excellence is there for the taking"

Sounds like the delusion is still suffocating.

It wasn't yesterday, but until one Larry Brown came to KU, K-State was a dominate program. Larry and the miracles lost twice to Lonnie's Cats.

Yes, that was 40 years ago and thanks mostly to an era where things were completely different. For a long time, conferences were only allowed to send one team to the tourney. Even longer ago, teams may have preferred to go to the NIT instead of the ncaa tourney. For KSU to harken back to pre-1985 days (the genrally agreed upon beginning of the modern era of ncaa hoops) is just corny. For them to do it by providing completely inaccurate details is just sad.

But congrats to KSU for having a few really good coaches during the one time that KU had a coach who was comparably inconsistent in the performances of the KU basketball team.

surly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:54 am

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:52 am "And the tradition of excellence is there for the taking"

Sounds like the delusion is still suffocating.

It wasn't yesterday, but until one Larry Brown came to KU, K-State was a dominate program. Larry and the miracles lost twice to Lonnie's Cats.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:36 pm

surly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:54 am

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:52 am "And the tradition of excellence is there for the taking"

Sounds like the delusion is still suffocating.

It wasn't yesterday, but until one Larry Brown came to KU, K-State was a dominate program. Larry and the miracles lost twice to Lonnie's Cats.

Before Larry Brown here is the count:

KU: 1 National Championship, 6 Final Fours, 37 Conference Championships

Kansas State: 0 National Championships, 4 Final Fours, 17 Conference Championships

The notion that the programs were equal prior to Larry Brown is a sad but hilarious little myth that I've heard you Taters hold onto for the past 20+ years.

surly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:39 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:36 pm

surly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:54 am

It wasn't yesterday, but until one Larry Brown came to KU, K-State was a dominate program. Larry and the miracles lost twice to Lonnie's Cats.

Before Larry Brown here is the count:

KU: 1 National Championship, 6 Final Fours, 37 Conference Championships

Kansas State: 0 National Championships, 4 Final Fours, 17 Conference Championships

The notion that the programs were equal prior to Larry Brown is a sad but hilarious little myth that I've heard you Taters hold onto for the past 20+ years.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:43 pm Kansas State has won 19 Conference Championships.

KU won its 20th Conference Championship in 1938. That was 85 years ago. Franklin Roosevelt was in his 2nd of 4 Presidential terms.

This is absurd.

surly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:45 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:43 pm Kansas State has won 19 Conference Championships.

KU won its 20th Conference Championship in 1938. That was 85 years ago. Franklin Roosevelt was in his 2nd of 4 Presidential terms.

This is absurd.

We were talking Big 8/12 not ancient history. All I'm saying is that there was a tradition of excellence in hoops at Manhattan dating back to Mitch Richmond's days. Even Weber won a couple championships and went to the E8. Tang knew that and waited for the opportunity to bring it back which he seems to have done in very short order.