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Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:31 am
by TDub
Rumor is Bobby and Yesufu have a pretty nasty bout of the flu at the moment. Maybe could explain yesterday's play a little bit. Hopefully it doesn't tear through the team

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:38 am
by InfiniteJ
I think Bill is letting Jalen give a speech on Senior Night because academically he's a Senior. Gradey is a lottery pick; he's gone. I really want McCullar to come back next year. I feel bad for Big Cam; I hope he's approved for the hardship waiver and is able to contribute next year.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:00 pm
by Mjl
InfiniteJ wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:38 am I think Bill is letting Jalen give a speech on Senior Night because academically he's a Senior. Gradey is a lottery pick; he's gone. I really want McCullar to come back next year. I feel bad for Big Cam; I hope he's approved for the hardship waiver and is able to contribute next year.
If he's contributing next year, my anticipation of an awesome front court next year with KJ/Udeh/Zubi is off.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:07 pm
by randylahey
Mjl wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:00 pm
InfiniteJ wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:38 am I think Bill is letting Jalen give a speech on Senior Night because academically he's a Senior. Gradey is a lottery pick; he's gone. I really want McCullar to come back next year. I feel bad for Big Cam; I hope he's approved for the hardship waiver and is able to contribute next year.
If he's contributing next year, my anticipation of an awesome front court next year with KJ/Udeh/Zubi is off.
Cam ain't ever contributing much here. KJ/Udeh/zuby is gonna be a meannn front court.

If Cam gets another year he's competing to be the 4th big next season. Id welcome him back to do that if thats all he wants. Id understand if he transfers. Clemence will too

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:59 pm
by InfiniteJ
Mjl wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:00 pm
InfiniteJ wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:38 am I think Bill is letting Jalen give a speech on Senior Night because academically he's a Senior. Gradey is a lottery pick; he's gone. I really want McCullar to come back next year. I feel bad for Big Cam; I hope he's approved for the hardship waiver and is able to contribute next year.
If he's contributing next year, my anticipation of an awesome front court next year with KJ/Udeh/Zubi is off.
I don't know how much he'll contribute next year, but Cam has a skill that KJ, Ernest, & Zuby doesn't...a skill that will be severely lacking at the position once Jalen is gone.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:33 pm
by Deleted User 863
Cam is not quick enough to play the 4.

He is enjoying his time at KU as a practice player. His GF is on the softball team. Life could be a lot worse. He should stay as long as they'll let him.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:23 am
by ousdahl
Do we really wanna afford a scholly for just a practice player tho? (ETA and another year’s worth of a scholly at that)

Isn’t that what walk-ons is for?

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:29 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:23 am Do we really wanna afford a scholly for just a practice player tho? (ETA and another year’s worth of a scholly at that)
Doesn't matter imo.

I don't think force outs in a situation like this are appropriate or fair. If Calipari did the same many here would bash him for it.

We made a commitment to Cam. We should honor that commitment. He's done nothing wrong since being at KU.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:31 am
by MICHHAWK
we gave sds a scholarship. we can continue to give cam martin one.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:35 am
by ousdahl
Well, Cam has at least kept his nose clean.

But SDS was good enough to play as a freshman. Cam’s played 10 D1 minutes, ever.

If he’s still here, methinks it’s cuz staff thinks he can contribute. The fact he’s been hurt, apparently, is prob a factor too

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:39 am
by pdub
We also have a self imposed schollie reduction for next year ( and the following two after ).

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:39 am
by Deleted User 863
Cam Martin didn't offer himself a scholly. SELF did. If he wasn't/isn't good enough to contribute other than practice then that's on Self. You don't kick the kid off the team because Self made a bad choice.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:51 am
by Mjl
What do we have for scholarships next year?
3 freshmen.
Harris
Udeh
Zuby
KJ
Rice

Wilson definitely gone. Sounds like McCullar is gone? So four left for
Pettiford
Yesufu
Martin
Clemence
Cuffe
Transfers

I'd be surprised if Clemence and Cuffe don't transfer. I assume at least one of Pettiford or Yesufu will as well. So even if Cam stays we should have room for one transfer. We need a shooter.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:59 am
by MICHHAWK
is ZC injured right now?

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:14 am
by InfiniteJ
Mjl wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:51 am What do we have for scholarships next year?
3 freshmen.
Harris
Udeh
Zuby
KJ
Rice

Wilson definitely gone. Sounds like McCullar is gone? So four left for
Pettiford
Yesufu
Martin
Clemence
Cuffe
Transfers

I'd be surprised if Clemence and Cuffe don't transfer. I assume at least one of Pettiford or Yesufu will as well. So even if Cam stays we should have room for one transfer. We need a shooter.
I won't be surprised if Zuby and/or Rice transfers.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:15 am
by pdub
Yes, Clemence is hurt.
I know it's been a tough road for Clemence but I do think, with Wilson out of the picture, he'd have a good shot at minutes next season.

Not starter minutes but maybe 6th, 7th man minutes.
Don't know if that's a deal breaker for him.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:16 am
by pdub
I don't think Zuby transfers.
Self was throwing him out there more than expected.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:19 am
by Deleted User 863
My guesses:

Clemence = maybe. Of the 3, he "should" transfer if significant playing time is something he desires. He isn't beating out Udeh or Zuby long term.

Zuby = no.

Rice = who knows.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:22 am
by jfish26
I don't know if MJ or Zuby will or would transfer. I do know that Bill's history (and previous transfers' histories) suggests that would be an unwise move on their part. Transferring away from Bill has improved things for...who exactly? Grimes comes to mind, but only in that I'm not sure he really wanted to work or play the way we wanted him to.

Re: WVA Gameday Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:23 am
by pdub
We have three guards coming in but no bigs.
Clemence hypothetically has a skillset that none of our potential contributing bigs have.
So you might see a world where he comes in for Adams and plays with Udeh or comes in for Udeh and KJ switches defensively.