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Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:56 am
by KUTradition
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:56 am
KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:05 am you really think most people would blame a political party rather than…

drought, winds, or climate change?
Yep. Primarily.
This has a major influence on my believing it.

I typed in California Fires
This is what popped up
https://x.com/search?q=california%20fir ... head_click
twitter…grain of salt (not clicking it)

it is NOT reality. it may represent a subset of reality, but that’s it

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:20 am
by BiggDick
there's this take I keep hearing.

It's along the lines of, so there's always been this presumption that our post-enlightenment civilization is now organized around science. But, this is not accurate.

Rather, our civilization is organized around capital. Science is leveraged only when it satisfies the interests of capital anyway. If the science conflicts with the capital, then the science is given little if any regard.

Case in point: climate change.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:55 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:56 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:56 am
KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:05 am you really think most people would blame a political party rather than…

drought, winds, or climate change?
Yep. Primarily.
This has a major influence on my believing it.

I typed in California Fires
This is what popped up
https://x.com/search?q=california%20fir ... head_click
twitter…grain of salt (not clicking it)

it is NOT reality. it may represent a subset of reality, but that’s it
Like you, I want to believe Twitter is NOT reality.
Here lies the problem, it absolutely IS reality. For over half a billion people.
You want to get a pulse on how a lot of people feel about a lot of things, Twitter is one of the better sources.
I say that as someone who feels Twitter sucks - and significantly contributes to the downfall of society.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:45 pm
by twocoach
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:55 am
KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:56 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:56 am

Yep. Primarily.
This has a major influence on my believing it.

I typed in California Fires
This is what popped up
https://x.com/search?q=california%20fir ... head_click
twitter…grain of salt (not clicking it)

it is NOT reality. it may represent a subset of reality, but that’s it
Like you, I want to believe Twitter is NOT reality.
Here lies the problem, it absolutely IS reality. For over half a billion people.
You want to get a pulse on how a lot of people feel about a lot of things, Twitter is one of the better sources.
I say that as someone who feels Twitter sucks - and significantly contributes to the downfall of society.
The problem is that so many of the "people" on Twitter are actually fake. There are fleets of bots and fake accounts that are purposefully generating and interacting with content to control the narrative of how it appears that people think and feel.

The entire world didn't just magically begin to feel differently about things once Elon Musk decided to put Donald Trump in the White House but it sure looked that way when the algorithms were changed to control the content in that direction.

It's no longer the pulse of the people. It's just another partisan media site along the lines of Newsmax or FoxNews.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:37 pm
by MICHHAWK
who gives a ship what the tw*t$ on tweeter think about anything.

man you nimbnuts spend a lot of time worrying about twiteer.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:46 pm
by MICHHAWK
twitter says the wildfires are started by dt.

twitter says the wildfires are started by illegals.

twitter says the wildfires are started by isreal.

tweeter says the wildfires are started by nfl referees.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:00 pm
by MICHHAWK
tweetre says the the electoral college started the wildfires.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:12 pm
by MICHHAWK
twizzlre say the soft on crime democrat DA’s started the wildfires.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:17 pm
by MICHHAWK
tweezer says Jan 6 started the wildfires.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:25 pm
by AlOerter
Sorry to change the subject. Just found out KUsports.com is now a pay subscription site. Been reading them for years. Used to be on their message board. Won't be subscribing. End of an era.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:21 pm
by Shirley
AlOerter wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:25 pm Sorry to change the subject. Just found out KUsports.com is now a pay subscription site. Been reading them for years. Used to be on their message board. Won't be subscribing. End of an era.
This site? https://www2.kusports.com

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:36 pm
by AlOerter
Shirley wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:21 pm
AlOerter wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:25 pm Sorry to change the subject. Just found out KUsports.com is now a pay subscription site. Been reading them for years. Used to be on their message board. Won't be subscribing. End of an era.
This site? https://www2.kusports.com
Yep. Click on an article and start reading and you'll soon get a pop-up to subscribe and pay.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:43 pm
by JKLivin
AlOerter wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:25 pm Sorry to change the subject. Just found out KUsports.com is now a pay subscription site. Been reading them for years. Used to be on their message board. Won't be subscribing. End of an era.
Yep. Pretty crazy considering that they're down to one beat reporter covering KU sports, and he seems to spend most of his time making sure that the most obscure ones get equal coverage. Not worth a dime. Sad departure from the old days.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:47 pm
by Shirley
AlOerter wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:36 pm
Shirley wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:21 pm
AlOerter wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:25 pm Sorry to change the subject. Just found out KUsports.com is now a pay subscription site. Been reading them for years. Used to be on their message board. Won't be subscribing. End of an era.
This site? https://www2.kusports.com
Yep. Click on an article and start reading and you'll soon get a pop-up to subscribe and pay.
Maybe I could fill out a survey, instead?

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:45 pm
by KUTradition
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:55 am
KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:56 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:56 am

Yep. Primarily.
This has a major influence on my believing it.

I typed in California Fires
This is what popped up
https://x.com/search?q=california%20fir ... head_click
twitter…grain of salt (not clicking it)

it is NOT reality. it may represent a subset of reality, but that’s it
Like you, I want to believe Twitter is NOT reality.
Here lies the problem, it absolutely IS reality. For over half a billion people.
You want to get a pulse on how a lot of people feel about a lot of things, Twitter is one of the better sources.
I say that as someone who feels Twitter sucks - and significantly contributes to the downfall of society.
so why do you continue to patronize a business (yes, it is a business) that sucks?

would you keep going to a restaurant that always served shitty food? (or if it was always a dice roll if it would be shitty?)

i really don’t understand why reasonable people (i consider you you reasonable generally ;) ) choose to give musk their business. there are alternatives, including deplatforming altogether. it’s liberating…trust me

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:02 pm
by zsn
KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:45 pm
would you keep going to a restaurant that always served shitty food? (or if it was always a dice roll if it would be shitty?)
H. L. Mencken says hello. You just described Olive Garden and the entire fast food industry!

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:45 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:55 am
KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:56 am
twitter…grain of salt (not clicking it)

it is NOT reality. it may represent a subset of reality, but that’s it
Like you, I want to believe Twitter is NOT reality.
Here lies the problem, it absolutely IS reality. For over half a billion people.
You want to get a pulse on how a lot of people feel about a lot of things, Twitter is one of the better sources.
I say that as someone who feels Twitter sucks - and significantly contributes to the downfall of society.
so why do you continue to patronize a business (yes, it is a business) that sucks?

would you keep going to a restaurant that always served shitty food? (or if it was always a dice roll if it would be shitty?)

i really don’t understand why reasonable people (i consider you you reasonable generally ;) ) choose to give musk their business. there are alternatives, including deplatforming altogether. it’s liberating…trust me
You ask an excellent question and bring up great points!
Here is long winded response.....

1. I refuse to pay a penny to Elon Musk to use his site - but I realize I still "support" it by viewing and VERY rarely posting on it.
2. I am a very curious person by nature. There are things I can (and do) learn about by viewing posts on Twitter. Or at least there are things I find interesting/entertaining - in what at times is a positive (but too often negative) way.
3. I am someone who lives alone and while I often do enjoy peace and solitude, at times I seek social interaction (thus my view and posting on this site being an example).

I would not keep going to eat at a restaurant that serves shitty food but I might keep going to a restaurant for companionship and entertainment.

Thank you for considering me generally reasonable! That may be generous of you but I like to think I am, or at least can be, a somewhat reasonable person.
As I said in my #1, I understand I am giving Musk "my business" by visiting his site but I refuse to directly give him my money to use his site.
Absolutely there are alternatives. Definitely much better ones. Bottom line, I have addiction issues. I fully admit I am addicted to the inter-webs (social media). I know ways to distract and cope with that addiction but no doubt I do give in to my social media addiction.

No doubt I am better off when I am off my computer and reading a book, giving my full attention to watching a movie or sporting event, doing a puzzle, whatever, while I am at home, but like I said, I am intrigued by/with what I see and read on social media - and news sources - on the internet. I enjoy doing research, and learning. I used to go to the library to do that. I probably still should but now a shit load of information is available in my apartment at my fingertips without having to get up from my chair.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:16 pm
by Shirley
zsn wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:02 pm
KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:45 pm
would you keep going to a restaurant that always served shitty food? (or if it was always a dice roll if it would be shitty?)
H. L. Mencken says hello. You just described Olive Garden The Cheesecake Factory and the entire fast food industry!
I'm sure you won't mind that I fixed your post, seeing as how Darden, parent of OG, is my 2nd largest holding. mkay?

tia

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:18 pm
by Shirley
I'd miss you, Gutter.

Re: Wildfires

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:02 pm
by KUTradition
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/12/g-s1-423 ... refighters

Why Los Angeles, America's most fire-ready city, became overwhelmed by flames

In a city prone to large natural disasters, L.A. firefighters are widely considered to be among the best in the business at knocking down urban wildfires. But in the extreme conditions lately, experts say little can be done even to slow these modern fires.