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Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:38 pm
by twocoach
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:29 pm
First, healthcare is not and should not be the purview of government. Second, the problem is the artificial structure created by third party payors. Remove that, allow the free market to do its job, and you have no problems. Third, all of that is a moot point if you don’t have jobs and livable wages.
Unemployment is at a nearly 50 year low. Jobs shouldn't real big on the priority list for the mid term election.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:48 pm
by Shirley
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:29 pm
...allow the free market to do its job, and you have no problems...
^^^
And, the tax cuts will pay for themselves!!!
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:53 pm
by HouseDivided
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:38 pm
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:29 pm
First, healthcare is not and should not be the purview of government. Second, the problem is the artificial structure created by third party payors. Remove that, allow the free market to do its job, and you have no problems. Third, all of that is a moot point if you don’t have jobs and livable wages.
Unemployment is at a nearly 50 year low. Jobs shouldn't real big on the priority list for the mid term election.
Stuff doesn’t stay that way by accident. It has to be protected.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:23 pm
by seahawk
Feral wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:48 pm
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:29 pm
...allow the free market to do its job, and you have no problems...
^^^
And, the tax cuts will pay for themselves!!!
That’s total nonsense and Psych knows it.
One of my public admin profs used to say that the government gets involved when the private sector has screwed up a lot. Which seems to be true of healthcare. Of course, as a former city budget director and the elected mayor, he certainly understood less than someone who simply voices ideological beliefs that have no relationship to the real world.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:37 pm
by ousdahl
all I know is, the best health insurance I ever had was Medicaid.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:22 pm
by HouseDivided
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:37 pm
all I know is, the best health insurance I ever had was Medicaid.
And we all paid for it. You’re welcome.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:23 pm
by HouseDivided
HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:22 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:37 pm
all I know is, the best health insurance I ever had was Medicaid.
And we all paid for it. You’re welcome.
As my dad used to say, “Government could screw up a one car parade.” Always found that to be true.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:45 pm
by Deleted User 75
jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:48 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:54 pm
We do not have the know how to fix healthcare.
Nobody knows more about healthcare than Trump....believe me.
The best Healthcare.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:58 pm
by Deleted User 183
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:45 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:48 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:54 pm
We do not have the know how to fix healthcare.
Nobody knows more about healthcare than Trump....believe me.
The best Healthcare.
When Trump says either "the best" or "believe me" he is playing the the role of Chad Ochocinco saying "child please".
Which reminds me of an old joke. How do you say fuck you in L.A.? "Trust me"
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 pm
by DCHawk1
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:17 pm
Feral wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:59 pm
Dumbfuck indeed.
Do you people know anything about politics?
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:02 pm
by Geezer
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:17 pm
Feral wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:59 pm
Dumbfuck indeed.
Do you people know anything about politics?
Do you?
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:16 pm
by DCHawk1
lulz
I know damn well which single issue won Trump the nomination and the presidency.
I also know what the polling data shows with respect to immigration AND Paul Ryan.
That Trump is on the wrong side of these issues morally shouldn't surprise you.
But by now it also shouldn't surprise you that he's one the right side politically.
He's not as dumb as you think. And his closest adviser is longtime and very successful pollster.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:28 pm
by ousdahl
DC a Trump apologist
LULZ
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:30 pm
by DCHawk1
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:28 pm
DC a Trump apologist
LULZ
No. But I know what he's doing and why.
(P.S. the "wrong side morally" bit should have been a clue for you....)
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:05 pm
by Geezer
How does being on the right side politically result in an approval rating of 40%?
BUILD THE WALL!!
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:19 pm
by DCHawk1
Geezer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:05 pm
How does being on the right side politically result in an approval rating of 40%?
BUILD THE WALL!!
lulz
47% in the latest NBC/WSJ poll (significantly higher than Obama at the same point), and support for immigration policies drawing overwhelming majorities of Reps. and independents and some even drawing majority support from Dems.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:22 pm
by Geezer
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:33 pm
by DCHawk1
Poll aggregation carries its own biases, of course. But even if his approval is closer to 42 than 47, that's largely irrelevant (which, I presume is why you introduced it into the conversation). It doesn't change the relevant fact that illegal immigration is an issue that on which voters agree with him overwhelmingly.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:38 pm
by Geezer
And BTW not significantly higher that Obama.
Have you forgotten facts matter?
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:45 pm
by DCHawk1
Good lord. It IS significantly higher than Obama's, according to the poll I cited -- which is why I put it in the same post with that poll.
Such a weird, stupid thing to fixate on.