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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:21 am
by CrimsonNBlue
You obviously are closer to the particular details on this one and I'm making sweeping generalizations to the industry in general.
Responding in part, COVID is no longer covered by traveler's insurance as it is now a foreseeable disruption. I could buy that this particular guy did the "well, we've technically been exposed and will cancel if can get out of deposit, but if we can't get out of deposit and we're not experiencing symptoms, might as well not let money go to waste." aka, leave it up to the resort.
I agree with it having a high chance of being complete BS. And, with Colorado having record occupancy this year, I understand the management's skepticism. At the end of the day, I'd probably just say you can't have the deposit back but can use it on a future stay.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:30 am
by ousdahl
Yeah, we offered a credit too.
“Sir, let’s just apply this stay to some future dates when y’all are healthy.”
No dice.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:32 am
by ousdahl
Many have expressed the mindset that, “we’ve endured enough with this pandemic, so we deserve this vacation.”
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:34 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:05 am
The real point is that you have a regional/local resort owner that can't afford to eat last minute cancellations no matter the stated reason. You have a tourist that can't afford to eat a nonrefundable deposit even though he's been exposed and knows the safest option is to cancel. I'm sympathetic to both of those positions. It sucks.
The entire situation should and could have been avoided if better measures were taken (checks calendar) nearly a year ago.
Wait, you're saying obvious errors in judgment made around a year ago are now having the eminently predictable outcomes?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:35 am
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:30 am
Yeah, we offered a credit too.
“Sir, let’s just apply this stay to some future dates when y’all are healthy.”
No dice.
In that case, I'm not sure why the guy even called.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:36 am
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:32 am
Many have expressed the mindset that, “we’ve endured enough with this pandemic, so we deserve this vacation.”
This is akin to "this could be grandma's last thanksgiving so we all need to get together to ensure that it is."
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:39 am
by ousdahl
Yeah, the logic is...um, not logical at all.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:40 am
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:34 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:05 am
The real point is that you have a regional/local resort owner that can't afford to eat last minute cancellations no matter the stated reason. You have a tourist that can't afford to eat a nonrefundable deposit even though he's been exposed and knows the safest option is to cancel. I'm sympathetic to both of those positions. It sucks.
The entire situation should and could have been avoided if better measures were taken (checks calendar) nearly a year ago.
Wait, you're saying obvious errors in judgment made around a year ago are now having the eminently predictable outcomes?
It's going to be quite something when re-opening 100% is delayed because US is going to try and roll the vaccines out the same way it did with PPE/tests.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:41 am
by ousdahl
is going to?
weren’t we supposed to have 20 million vaccinated by New Years?
We have like 4 million.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:42 am
by ousdahl
Also this friend told me she got vaccinated and I replied with, “can you feel the microchip controlling you yet?” And I don’t think she knew I was joking.
I continue to be amazed by how many people take me seriously.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:43 am
by Deleted User 62
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:42 am
I continue to be amazed by how many people take me seriously.
Probably not as many as you think....
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:45 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:40 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:34 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:05 am
The real point is that you have a regional/local resort owner that can't afford to eat last minute cancellations no matter the stated reason. You have a tourist that can't afford to eat a nonrefundable deposit even though he's been exposed and knows the safest option is to cancel. I'm sympathetic to both of those positions. It sucks.
The entire situation should and could have been avoided if better measures were taken (checks calendar) nearly a year ago.
Wait, you're saying obvious errors in judgment made around a year ago are now having the eminently predictable outcomes?
It's going to be quite something when re-opening 100% is delayed because US is going to try and roll the vaccines out the same way it did with PPE/tests.
The "it's the states' problem now" rebop is breathtaking.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:45 am
by Deleted User 89
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:14 am
so this whole vaccine rollout...
shouldn’t be surprised, but honestly am that it has been such a clusterfuck
initially supposed to have 100 mil doses by end of year, but ended with under 10 mil
now, bureaucrats think it’s a good idea to experiment on the populace by changing the dosing regimen...talk about egg on face. shoulda just bought the extra doses they were offered (but declined) months ago
how anyone can continue to support this inept administration is beyond me
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:46 am
by ousdahl
jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:43 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:42 am
I continue to be amazed by how many people take me seriously.
Probably not as many as you think....
Oh come on bro, we both know that’s just the microchip talking.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:46 am
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:45 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:40 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:34 am
Wait, you're saying obvious errors in judgment made around a year ago are now having the eminently predictable outcomes?
It's going to be quite something when re-opening 100% is delayed because US is going to try and roll the vaccines out the same way it did with PPE/tests.
The "it's the states' problem now" rebop is breathtaking.
Questionable pun . . .
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:07 am
by jhawks99
ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:58 pm
sorry, but if I’m getting shit for a 5 minute car ride with a local, then I only think it’s appropriate to give the best advice possible regarding cross-country leisure travel during a pandemic.
But if you do go, it sounds like you got the right idea
I wasn't serious.
We flew to Minneapolis back in August. Not a lot of people flying at the time, we kept our distance and wore masks the whole time.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:01 pm
by ousdahl
Oh, you weren’t being serious either?
This microchip is fucking with us even more than we thought.
None of us are able to take anything serious any more, yet the only one laughing is Bill Gates.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:30 pm
by Deleted User 89
powerful microchips...considering few, if any of us have been vaccinated
that Bill Gates is a geeenyus
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:05 pm
by jhawks99
Mrs 99 got vaccinated. Not me yet, but maybe....
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:08 pm
by PhDhawk
Mrs PhD just got her first shot today.