Kansas Crimson

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:23 pm

japhy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:06 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:00 pm DeSantis v. Haley

Shoot me.

Please.

If you weren't all hopped up on Mountain Dew you would probably see the subtle nuance in their political views and opinions.

not that i'm watching but just sayin

I watched the first 40 minutes.

Turns out I'm too snowflake to watch them attack each other over and over any longer than that, I guess.

japhy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:26 am

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:23 pm

japhy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:06 pm

If you weren't all hopped up on Mountain Dew you would probably see the subtle nuance in their political views and opinions.

not that i'm watching but just sayin

I watched the first 40 minutes.

Turns out I'm too snowflake to watch them attack each other over and over any longer than that, I guess.

If are a voter you doesn't know who they are by now I suppose the "debate" could be informative. At this point the viewership is inspired mostly out of morbid curiosity. It's a bum fight in the alley behind a bar. The drama consists of which one is going to bend over and hurl first, and is the spew going to land on the other combatant.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:09 am They are worse people we could end up with as President than Nikki Haley.

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:14 am While I remain skeptical of any polls this early in the process, it's notable that Biden has surpassed Trump in Pennsylvania for the first time in this election cycle. And, what's even more interesting is that Biden has pulled ahead despite the problem he's currently having with young voters*. How has he accomplished that, you ask? As you can see in the image below, Biden is dominating the 65+ demographic, 60% to 37%. That's absolutely gobsmacking. Although there has been some recent questioning of the widely accepted "truism" that as people age they become more conservative, i.e., republican, unless this is an outlier, (it could be), if it's a reaction to Trump in particular, it has huge ramifications for the '24 election. Older people show up to vote. Was this a factor in how well Dems did in the 2022 midterms?

Is it possible that people 65 and over don't appreciate that Trump seems to be rooting for a financial crash this year so that it can help him get reelected.: “When there’s a crash − I hope it’s gonna be during this next 12 months, because I don't want to be Herbert Hoover,"

Or, is it because they aren't like the MAGA cult members whose support increases every time Trump is charged with yet another crime, because they remember the Democratic headquarters Watergate break-in by Nixon's reelection committee, Nixon's lies, his resignation in shame, pardoning by President Ford to save the country from suffering thru the drama, and believe in the rule of law?



PA 2024 Elections: Biden On Upside Of Too-Close-To-Call Race, Quinnipiac University Pennsylvania Poll Finds; Casey Opens Up Double-Digit Lead In Senate Race

In the key swing state of Pennsylvania, President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump remain in a too-close-to-call hypothetical 2024 general election matchup with 49 percent of registered voters supporting Biden and 46 percent supporting Trump, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University poll of registered voters in Pennsylvania released today. This marks the first time in Pennsylvania that Biden has a numerical advantage over Trump in the 2024 presidential race.

In October, a Quinnipiac University poll in Pennsylvania showed Trump with 47 percent support and Biden with 45 percent support. In June, Trump received 47 percent support and Biden received 46 percent support.

In today's poll, Democrats back Biden 96 - 4 percent and Republicans back Trump 89 - 7 percent. Independents are divided, with 45 percent supporting Trump and 44 percent supporting Biden.

In a five-person hypothetical 2024 general election matchup that includes independent and Green Party candidates, Biden receives 41 percent support, Trump receives 39 percent support, independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. receives 11 percent support, Green Party candidate Jill Stein receives 4 percent support, and independent candidate Cornel West receives 2 percent support.

...In the U.S. Senate race in Pennsylvania, incumbent Democratic Senator Bob Casey leads Republican challenger David McCormick 53 - 43 percent. In October, Casey led McCormick 50 - 44 percent.

SENATOR FETTERMAN

Fetterman's results in the poll support what I believe about Democrats, that the majority support a strong border, (not to be confused with the republican version of "strong"), and Israel overall.

Roughly one-quarter of voters (26 percent) say they think more favorably of Senator John Fetterman for expressing strong support for Israel, while 14 percent say this makes them think less favorably of him, and 57 percent say it has no impact on their view of him.

Roughly one-third of voters (35 percent) say they think more favorably of Fetterman for expressing support for tougher immigration policies, while 9 percent say this makes them think less favorably of him, and 52 percent say it has no impact on their view of him.


*I'm not that worried, because once the primaries are over and it comes down to a choice between Biden and Trump, the vast majority of young voters will remember abortion, the environment, LGBTQ and racial issues, et al., and come home. Because

if those issues really matter to you, and you aren't encumbered by the nihility of allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the possible, there's no other choice.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:09 am They are worse people we could end up with as President than Nikki Haley.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:34 am If the R nominee is anyone but Trump, I think that nominee INSTANTLY rockets past Biden in terms of 2024 odds.

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:09 pm Guess who's NOT under indictment, who isn't in 70 different pictures with Jeffrey Epstein, and is currently BEATING TRUMP BY 3 POINTS in Pennsylvania in the latest Quinnipiac poll?

Cassandra wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:33 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:09 pm Guess who's NOT under indictment, who isn't in 70 different pictures with Jeffrey Epstein, and is currently BEATING TRUMP BY 3 POINTS in Pennsylvania in the latest Quinnipiac poll?

Well okay, but that leaves out the issue with his son's laptop, which is confirmed as real. Images included Hunter naked with his niece among many other disturbing things. Not a good look for Pa.

But you know, Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre recently said she did not believe Trump was involved with any of the girls on the island.

Omitting the info you don't want isn't going to give you the full picture and is dishonest.

Cassandra wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:33 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:09 pm Guess who's NOT under indictment, who isn't in 70 different pictures with Jeffrey Epstein, and is currently BEATING TRUMP BY 3 POINTS in Pennsylvania in the latest Quinnipiac poll?

Well okay, but that leaves out the issue with his son's laptop, which is confirmed as real. Images included Hunter naked with his niece among many other disturbing things. Not a good look for Pa.

But you know, Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre recently said she did not believe Trump was involved with any of the girls on the island.

Omitting the info you don't want isn't going to give you the full picture and is dishonest.