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Grandma wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:51 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:38 pm Obviously I am not a legal scholar, attorney, judge, but we have some who post on this site. Perhaps they can chime in and tell us if Trump could bear any legal responsibility and as extreme as this would probably be - could he be accused of either involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide?

Gutter. FFS, the drug is APPROVED FOR HUMAN USE. WTF are you even talking about?

Trump just said "hydroxychloroquine doesn't kill people". "I want them to try it".
That is what the fuck I am talking about.

Grandma wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:51 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:38 pm Obviously I am not a legal scholar, attorney, judge, but we have some who post on this site. Perhaps they can chime in and tell us if Trump could bear any legal responsibility and as extreme as this would probably be - could he be accused of either involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide?

Gutter. FFS, the drug is APPROVED FOR HUMAN USE. WTF are you even talking about?

Trump just said "hydroxychloroquine doesn't kill people". "I want them to try it". "Them" not meaning doctors treating patients. "Them" meaning people who may/do have the virus.
That is what the fuck I am talking about.

Grandma wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:32 pm Ok HD, After this post I'll take a step back.
Since I truly am having some COVID-19 symptoms maybe I'll go try and find some hydroxychloroquine to take along with my blood pressure med. What do I have to lose?
This evening our President implied he knows more about hydroxychloroquine than Fauci does despite his actually saying, "What do I know, I'm not a doctor". BINGO MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!
When Fauci started to step up to the podium to talk about hydroxychloroquine Trump basically brushed him off.
FUCK DJT!
Ok, now I'm going to take a step back. Have a nice evening!

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:34 pm Why is an informed public so threatening to the Establishment? Could it be that they fear a country full of people not content to sit docilely in their homes while their wealth, their civil rights, and their future are taken from them? DJT has thrown, and continues to throw, a monkey wrench in the master plan. An informed public is a dangerous public. We should all just be content to sit in our homes and wait for the government to give us food and money and instructions. SMH.

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:57 am

Vega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:55 am https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/spor ... virus.html

Olympics scheduled for July 23, 2021. I know a lot of people brush off the Olympics, but I love them. I was really looking forward to them this summer.

I love the Olympics too.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:20 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:34 pm Why is an informed public so threatening to the Establishment? Could it be that they fear a country full of people not content to sit docilely in their homes while their wealth, their civil rights, and their future are taken from them? DJT has thrown, and continues to throw, a monkey wrench in the master plan. An informed public is a dangerous public. We should all just be content to sit in our homes and wait for the government to give us food and money and instructions. SMH.

Because blabbering a bunch of half sentences, half truths, unproven hypothesis and things he heard when he was half listening to a briefing isnt "keeping people informed". It's verbal diarrhea to fill space in a pathetically obvious attempt to show that he knows more than everyone else and to push his agenda.

I have zero problem with him informing us. But this is not the method to use to inform people, nor is much of it information that is ready to be presented. This notion that fast information is better than accurate information is troubling. It works for some things but is awful for other things. The vast majority of people who made definitive statements about this early on and ended up having incorrect statements now attributed to them.

Geezer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:38 pm Nice to know that we have 3 volunteers to take an untested and unapproved treatment for CV-19. BTW can we have the name of the doctor that wrote your prescription so we can turn him in to the state board.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:46 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:37 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:20 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:34 pm Why is an informed public so threatening to the Establishment? Could it be that they fear a country full of people not content to sit docilely in their homes while their wealth, their civil rights, and their future are taken from them? DJT has thrown, and continues to throw, a monkey wrench in the master plan. An informed public is a dangerous public. We should all just be content to sit in our homes and wait for the government to give us food and money and instructions. SMH.

Because blabbering a bunch of half sentences, half truths, unproven hypothesis and things he heard when he was half listening to a briefing isnt "keeping people informed". It's verbal diarrhea to fill space in a pathetically obvious attempt to show that he knows more than everyone else and to push his agenda.

I have zero problem with him informing us. But this is not the method to use to inform people, nor is much of it information that is ready to be presented. This notion that fast information is better than accurate information is troubling. It works for some things but is awful for other things. The vast majority of people who made definitive statements about this early on and ended up having incorrect statements now attributed to them.

The situation calls for a balance between fast information and what scientists consider accurate information. Like it or not, there is too much at stake to plod along at the traditional lab science pace. It is untenable to expect people to be caged up for three months, much less eighteen. The economy will reach a point of no return and will cause suffering above and beyond anything COVID-19 can create. It would be great if we could do the slow, methodical lab science thing, but it is not going to work - at least not if you want a world worth surviving for when the dust settles.

Geezer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:32 pm The head of the AMA disagrees with you but where did you get your medical degree?

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:31 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:37 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:20 pm
Because blabbering a bunch of half sentences, half truths, unproven hypothesis and things he heard when he was half listening to a briefing isnt "keeping people informed". It's verbal diarrhea to fill space in a pathetically obvious attempt to show that he knows more than everyone else and to push his agenda.

I have zero problem with him informing us. But this is not the method to use to inform people, nor is much of it information that is ready to be presented. This notion that fast information is better than accurate information is troubling. It works for some things but is awful for other things. The vast majority of people who made definitive statements about this early on and ended up having incorrect statements now attributed to them.

The situation calls for a balance between fast information and what scientists consider accurate information. Like it or not, there is too much at stake to plod along at the traditional lab science pace. It is untenable to expect people to be caged up for three months, much less eighteen. The economy will reach a point of no return and will cause suffering above and beyond anything COVID-19 can create. It would be great if we could do the slow, methodical lab science thing, but it is not going to work - at least not if you want a world worth surviving for when the dust settles.

Then put competent people at the helm of this pandemic and get your shit organized. This administration has bungled this at every step. Nothing is coordinated, no message is clear or consistent. It has been a clear display of an abject failure of leadership.

Geezer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:39 pm So you have no idea what you are talking about.