Kansas Crimson

Cascadia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:29 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:26 am Let's just call a spade a spade, a portion of our fan base are hyper critical of our players who are white kids from Kansas (CB is better than sleeves and reed, but they got hated on too). Perry Ellis isn't white, but he experienced some of that treatment (false narratives, selective stat analysis, etc) as well being a native Kansan.

The exact opposite is what’s actually true. Too many emotional fans who want to cheer for the underdog, the hometown kid, the little engine that could, etc. and lose their shot when they are fairly criticized

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:53 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:29 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:26 am Let's just call a spade a spade, a portion of our fan base are hyper critical of our players who are white kids from Kansas (CB is better than sleeves and reed, but they got hated on too). Perry Ellis isn't white, but he experienced some of that treatment (false narratives, selective stat analysis, etc) as well being a native Kansan.

The exact opposite is what’s actually true. Too many emotional fans who want to cheer for the underdog, the hometown kid, the little engine that could, etc. and lose their shot when they are fairly criticized

There is a meaningful slice of fans who look at Kansas kids and, squinting, tell themselves they were that close themselves.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:53 am @illy - You clearly don’t get the point. What’s there to discuss?

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:57 am Ous does have a plate of crow to eat on Braun, but I think he was more just frustrated in off-season that he knew Braun would start and play over Yesefu.

mjl was probably the only guy convinced the team would be better with Yesefu than Braun, but with the bias, it makes it a little more excusable.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:05 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:53 am @illy - You clearly don’t get the point. What’s there to discuss?

Your point was Braun had a bad 3 game/7 day stretch last year.

My guess: it won't happen this year.


You'd have been better off not picking up the baton ousdahl dropped.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:20 am Know what? I’ll gladly eat that crow.

Except it’s actually spelled crauw.

Now some of you guys need to stop obsessing over me, please and thanks.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:30 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:05 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:53 am @illy - You clearly don’t get the point. What’s there to discuss?

Your point was Braun had a bad 3 game/7 day stretch last year.

My guess: it won't happen this year.


You'd have been better off not picking up the baton ousdahl dropped.

That was not the point.

No one is surprised that you missed it

Cascadia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:31 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:20 am Know what? I’ll gladly eat that crow.

Except it’s actually spelled crauw.

Now some of you guys need to stop obsessing over me, please and thanks.

What did you do to illy, man? He’s approaching MICH level dumb.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:38 am And I think I compared/contrasted CB and Joe’s performances against USC last year but didn’t directly say one should take the other’s minutes. They play different positions.

The hope that Joe (or Bobby) turns a corner is more with regard to Juan being a black hole on offense. Don’t think we can afford to play 5 on 4 again, and do think that’ll bite us at some point.

Or heck, maybe Dajuan will turn a corner and at least become worth more than someone the defense can get away with not guarding.

And yeah, I’m glad this team looks good so far, but I’m also wondering how we look against actual good teams. Cuz I mean we looked vulnerable pretty quick against a 2-3 Dayton team.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:51 am Yeah, I agree.

I suppose that much was obvious. 4 returning starters, plus the best and most experienced transfer.

2 small guard lineups notwithstanding.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:53 am I also wouldn’t be surprised if Self does Self things and goes all ride or die with Dajuan’s 2ppg while Joe and Bobby (and Kyle) sit wondering if it’s too soon to enter the transfer portal.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:01 am Yeah, Dajuan’s good at passing and defense.

If there’s something that might make it OK for Dajuan to play, it’s that even tho he can’t shoot, if he gets the ball he can at least get into space and move it in a hurry.

But still, Dajuan out there makes it that much easier for opponents to guard (or double) everybody else.

And just generally, elite teams tend to not have things like 2ppg starters