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Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:44 pm
by sdoyel

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:24 pm
by DCHawk1
Geezer wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:38 pm Nice to know that we have 3 volunteers to take an untested and unapproved treatment for CV-19. BTW can we have the name of the doctor that wrote your prescription so we can turn him in to the state board.
My god, you're broken.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:43 am
by zsn
HouseDivided wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:25 pm
Geezer wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:38 pm Nice to know that we have 3 volunteers to take an untested and unapproved treatment for CV-19. BTW can we have the name of the doctor that wrote your prescription so we can turn him in to the state board.
Since it is FDA approved, that’s kind of a moot point.
The FDA has approved it for treatment of specific illnesses. Viral infection treatment (as far as I know) IS NOT ON THE APPROVED LABEL. What Trump is doing is called off-label promotion and there are specific laws against it.

A physician may prescribe for experimental treatment but that requires the execution of an Informed Consent with the patient which has been reviewed and approved by an Institutional Review Board and often related filings or Amendments of Investigational New Drug Application (IND) with the FDA.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:58 am
by DCHawk1
The FDA has granted an "emergency use" order.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:10 am
by Shirley
The US is nearing 10,000 deaths.


Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:19 am
by Shirley
WTF is going on?


Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:40 am
by jfish26
Feral wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:19 am WTF is going on?

Pretty clear - the administration is reacting to criticism over not moving more quickly.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:20 am
by jfish26
sdoyel wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:44 pm
I think it’s probably more straightforward than that.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:58 am
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:20 am
sdoyel wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:44 pm
I think it’s probably more straightforward than that.
Really?

That's funny, because before I saw this post, I copied that tweet to quote, with a comment along the lines of:

"This couldn't be more correct.

For evidence, go back and read through Psych's posts in this thread."


Hmmmm...

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:07 am
by Shirley
Wow! Damn. Wouldn't it be nice to have a test to screen them appropriately?

...The USCG announced this weekend that 114 cruise ships with 93,000 crew members on board were off the coast of the United States. The overwhelming majority of them – up to 90 – are in the Miami USCG area of responsibility, per USCG.


South Florida could be the most impacted by new restrictions on cruise travelers

Miami is the cruising capital of the world, with millions of passengers traveling through the Port of Miami every year.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced new rules for cruise line passengers overnight, requiring people to travel by charter flight and private transportation. Upon arrival home, the traveler must isolate for 14 days.

And South Florida could be the area of the country that is most impacted by the new CDC guidelines.

The USCG announced this weekend that 114 cruise ships with 93,000 crew members on board were off the coast of the United States. The overwhelming majority of them – up to 90 – are in the Miami USCG area of responsibility, per USCG.

Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez, expressed concern in a press conference this weekend, saying that he is trying to talk to the cruise lines to get crew members home.

“What we were trying to do with a cruise ships is a lot of them are out there with their crew and we're trying to tell the cruise industries, they need to start getting those healthy crew members, off the ships and just keep a very, very skeleton crew to operate the ship so that if anything does happen on any particular ship, the exposure to people is a heck of a lot less,” Gimenez said.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:19 am
by jfish26
Feral wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:58 am
jfish26 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:20 am
sdoyel wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:44 pm
I think it’s probably more straightforward than that.
Really?

That's funny, because before I saw this post, I copied that tweet to quote, with a comment along the lines of:

"This couldn't be more correct.

For evidence, go back and read through Psych's posts in this thread."


Hmmmm...
When something just seems weird, I'd tend to look toward money, or vanity (which are, of course related). Much sooner than I'd look toward something resembling empathy or an understanding of other people's emotions.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:29 am
by TDub
Id bet something more along the lines of "I had a cure, I had a solution. The establishment is holding me back again. They want Americans to die, I was just trying to save America"

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:40 am
by Deleted User 307
Reposts =/= endorsements.

TRUMP SHOULD BE TRIED FOR 'CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY' OVER HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE REMARKS, SAYS OHIO STATE REP.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-crimes-a ... ki-1496280

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:03 am
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:19 am
Feral wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:58 am
jfish26 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:20 am

I think it’s probably more straightforward than that.
Really?

That's funny, because before I saw this post, I copied that tweet to quote, with a comment along the lines of:

"This couldn't be more correct.

For evidence, go back and read through Psych's posts in this thread."


Hmmmm...
When something just seems weird, I'd tend to look toward money, or vanity (which are, of course related). Much sooner than I'd look toward something resembling empathy or an understanding of other people's emotions.
More evidence that the more I try to keep up, I'm just not cynical enough.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:05 am
by HouseDivided
jfish26 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:20 am
sdoyel wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:44 pm
I think it’s probably more straightforward than that.
Silberman obviously has a political axe to grind, as does everyone who is flipping out about the chloroquine issue. Sadly, he is much more likely to die because he is morbidly obese than anything else.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:07 am
by Shirley
TDub wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:29 am Id bet something more along the lines of "I had a cure, I had a solution. The establishment is holding me back again. They want Americans to die, I was just trying to save America"
Absolutely.

And, it fits right in with his unwavering attempt to appeal to his supporters sense of grievance.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:13 am
by DCHawk1
Feral wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:07 am

And, it fits right in with his unwavering attempt to appeal to his supporters sense of grievance.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:17 am
by dolomite
Feral wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:10 am The US is nearing 10,000 deaths.

Only 10,000?
The CDC has the number of deaths from the most recent flu virus as 24,000-63,000.

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:18 am
by dolomite
Vega wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:40 am Reposts =/= endorsements.

TRUMP SHOULD BE TRIED FOR 'CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY' OVER HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE REMARKS, SAYS OHIO STATE REP.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-crimes-a ... ki-1496280
Why not just impeach him?

Re: Where's the petri dish thread?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:25 am
by Shirley
Nearly half the supply of hydroxychloroquine to the U.S. comes from makers in India, a flow that has now been abruptly stanched after the Asian nation banned exports of all forms of the malaria drug touted by President Donald Trump as a “game changer” for treating the coronavirus.

According to data compiled by Bloomberg Intelligence, 47% of the U.S. supply of the drug last year came from India makers. Only a handful of suppliers in the top 10 are non-Indian, such as Actavis, now a subsidiary of Israeli generics giant Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. It’s likely that some of their production facilities are nevertheless located in India, the biggest maker of generic drugs in the world.

India’s export ban on the drug is aimed at ensuring it has enough supply for domestic use after the American president’s endorsement sparked global stockpiling of the medication. As the coronavirus pandemic widens globally, countries competing for supplies have enacted export bans or restrictions on goods from rice in Vietnam to face masks in Germany.

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