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Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:45 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:04 pm
What we are accused of doing (and were probably doing) are still not allowed under the new NIL changes from everything i have read. You can't offer recruits money/gifts to come to your school. You can't facilitate endorsements. Etc.
Is Adidas now allowed to offer a recruit $20,000 to rep Adidas on their social media? Yep.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:50 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:45 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:04 pm
What we are accused of doing (and were probably doing) are still not allowed under the new NIL changes from everything i have read. You can't offer recruits money/gifts to come to your school. You can't facilitate endorsements. Etc.
Is Adidas now allowed to offer a recruit $20,000 to rep Adidas on their social media? Yep.
Not if it is tied to committing to a certain school.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm
by PhDhawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:50 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:45 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:04 pm
What we are accused of doing (and were probably doing) are still not allowed under the new NIL changes from everything i have read. You can't offer recruits money/gifts to come to your school. You can't facilitate endorsements. Etc.
Is Adidas now allowed to offer a recruit $20,000 to rep Adidas on their social media? Yep.
Not if it is tied to committing to a certain school.
So, how's that gonna work for Russell athletics. Aren't they a sponsor for One university?
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:00 pm
by jfish26
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:50 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:45 pm
Is Adidas now allowed to offer a recruit $20,000 to rep Adidas on their social media? Yep.
Not if it is tied to committing to a certain school.
So, how's that gonna work for Russell athletics. Aren't they a sponsor for One university?
Was it Vermont that came through the fieldhouse 15ish years ago rocking New Balance?
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:04 pm
by PhDhawk
New Balance just signed Boston college.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:07 pm
by Deleted User 89
i thought eagles already had pretty good balance?
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:13 pm
by Deleted User 863
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:50 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:45 pm
Is Adidas now allowed to offer a recruit $20,000 to rep Adidas on their social media? Yep.
Not if it is tied to committing to a certain school.
So, how's that gonna work for Russell athletics. Aren't they a sponsor for One university?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Can't be any more difficult to investigate and enforce than the way it's always been i suppose.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:17 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:50 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:45 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:04 pm
What we are accused of doing (and were probably doing) are still not allowed under the new NIL changes from everything i have read. You can't offer recruits money/gifts to come to your school. You can't facilitate endorsements. Etc.
Is Adidas now allowed to offer a recruit $20,000 to rep Adidas on their social media? Yep.
Not if it is tied to committing to a certain school.
Agreed but you'd have to prove that it was tied to committing. The ncaa can allege that it is all they want. Moving forward, all you have to do is state in the contract that the player cannot be pictured on their social media profiles wearing official gear from another shoe company. You aren't telling them to go to a specific school.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:19 pm
by TDub
Which is why this is a clusterfuck
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:20 pm
by twocoach
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:19 pm
Which is why this is a clusterfuck
It will just be a different clusterfuck that is less likely to screw schools and players who had nothing to do with the money changing hands when sanctions are passed down long after a player leaves the school.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:21 pm
by TDub
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:20 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:19 pm
Which is why this is a clusterfuck
It will just be a different clusterfuck that is less likely to screw schools and players who had nothing to do with the money changing hands when sanctions are passed down long after a player leaves the school.
Should we call it a gang bang then?
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:22 pm
by PhDhawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:13 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:50 pm
Not if it is tied to committing to a certain school.
So, how's that gonna work for Russell athletics. Aren't they a sponsor for One university?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Can't be any more difficult to investigate and enforce than the way it's always been i suppose.
I don't think you get it.
If Adidas gives you $20,000 but doesn't tell you which Adidas school to go to, but it should be an adidas school, they didn't do anything wrong.
If Russell Athletics gives you $45 and a gift card to taco bell, They'd be in violation immediately since, they have only one school...and presumably, thye'd be tied to that school.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:23 pm
by twocoach
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:22 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:13 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm
So, how's that gonna work for Russell athletics. Aren't they a sponsor for One university?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Can't be any more difficult to investigate and enforce than the way it's always been i suppose.
I don't think you get it.
If Adidas gives you $20,000 but doesn't tell you which Adidas school to go to, but it should be an adidas school, they didn't do anything wrong.
If Russell Athletics gives you $45 and a gift card to taco bell, They'd be in violation immediately since, they have only one school...and presumably, thye'd be tied to that school.
Lots of lawyers out there that can word those contracts to work out just fine.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:25 pm
by Deleted User 863
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:22 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:13 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm
So, how's that gonna work for Russell athletics. Aren't they a sponsor for One university?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Can't be any more difficult to investigate and enforce than the way it's always been i suppose.
I don't think you get it.
If Adidas gives you $20,000 but doesn't tell you which Adidas school to go to, but it should be an adidas school, they didn't do anything wrong.
If Russell Athletics gives you $45 and a gift card to taco bell, They'd be in violation immediately since, they have only one school...and presumably, thye'd be tied to that school.
Since we are playing hypothetical games...adidas can't give them money and have a requirement of that money be that said player attend an adidas university.
Also, adidas has already been paying our players to come to Kansas...so not sure what really changes other than people can't pretend it isn't happening.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:26 pm
by Deleted User 863
I think as long as Russel Athletics waits to enter into something until after they (players) have already committed to that 1 school then they'd be fine?
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:28 pm
by PhDhawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:25 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:22 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:13 pm
Your guess is as good as mine.
Can't be any more difficult to investigate and enforce than the way it's always been i suppose.
I don't think you get it.
If Adidas gives you $20,000 but doesn't tell you which Adidas school to go to, but it should be an adidas school, they didn't do anything wrong.
If Russell Athletics gives you $45 and a gift card to taco bell, They'd be in violation immediately since, they have only one school...and presumably, thye'd be tied to that school.
Since we are playing hypothetical games...adidas can't give them money and have a requirement of that money be that said player attend an adidas university.
Also, adidas has already been paying our players to come to Kansas...so not sure what really changes other than people can't pretend it isn't happening.
Here's $20,000. You can go to any school you want.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:29 pm
by Deleted User 863
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:28 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:25 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:22 pm
I don't think you get it.
If Adidas gives you $20,000 but doesn't tell you which Adidas school to go to, but it should be an adidas school, they didn't do anything wrong.
If Russell Athletics gives you $45 and a gift card to taco bell, They'd be in violation immediately since, they have only one school...and presumably, thye'd be tied to that school.
Since we are playing hypothetical games...adidas can't give them money and have a requirement of that money be that said player attend an adidas university.
Also, adidas has already been paying our players to come to Kansas...so not sure what really changes other than people can't pretend it isn't happening.
Here's $20,000. You can go to any school you want.
Isn't that what is currently happening?
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:30 pm
by PhDhawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:29 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:28 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:25 pm
Since we are playing hypothetical games...adidas can't give them money and have a requirement of that money be that said player attend an adidas university.
Also, adidas has already been paying our players to come to Kansas...so not sure what really changes other than people can't pretend it isn't happening.
Here's $20,000. You can go to any school you want.
Isn't that what is currently happening?
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:30 pm
by jfish26
You can bet that schools/conferences will try to carve shoe companies out of NIL permissions.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:32 pm
by Deleted User 863
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:30 pm
You can bet that schools/conferences will try to carve shoe companies out of NIL permissions.
That way we can still have our lead recruiter be TJ Gasnolla?