Kansas Crimson

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:24 pm in real life, i only socialize with republicans. i do not know one republican, in real life, that will support dt in 2024.

Two questions....

1. Do you ask people if they are Republicans or Democrats (or supporters of other parties) before you decide to (or not to) "socialize" with them?
Either way, I have no real beef with you but if what you say is true, that probably makes you an even more shallow person than I would have assumed you are.

2. Have you actually asked EVERY Republican you have socialized with if they will support DT in 2024
or are you just stating those you have asked - said they won't/wouldn't?

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:36 am

japhy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:30 am trump should be very afraid about the Pence folks turning on him.

Pence seems like the guy who it will be hard to talk into playing dirty, which I think will probably cost him the GOP nomination for President in 2024

Pence can't beat Trump or Desantis.

Did mich poll 10 people at the mall again?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:26 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:36 am

japhy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:30 am trump should be very afraid about the Pence folks turning on him.

Pence seems like the guy who it will be hard to talk into playing dirty, which I think will probably cost him the GOP nomination for President in 2024

Pence can't beat Trump or Desantis.

We are in agreement on this.

So they folks who gave us "alternative facts" now give us another gem "subjectively believe".

Former President Donald Trump's legal team threatened to sue the cable network CNN for defamation, and the letter signals his attorneys are using a strategy likely to be a central defense should he ever face criminal charges related to his role in attempts to cling to power despite losing the 2020 election.

In the 282-page document, his lawyers said that the television network repeatedly said that Trump was "lying" and "fed a narrative that denounced President Trump's legitimacy and competency" following the presidential election.

The lawyers said CNN's portrayal of Trump is inaccurate because Trump "subjectively believes" there was election fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

One of the likely defense strategies Trump's lawyers could employ is to argue that he genuinely believed that there was election fraud and did not have the intent to commit a criminal act.

For instance, in the document, the lawyers go into more detail about how Trump did not lie about election fraud by writing the full definition of that word.

"Webster's Dictionary defines a 'lie' as an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive," they wrote. "The definition, then, is not limited to simply being wrong about an assertion; it instead requires the speaker to know he or she is speaking falsely and to specifically harbor an intent to mislead. "

The Trump lawyers also argued that numerous claims after the election suggested that there were problems with vote counting — assertions that would prove baseless and failed in courts when they were presented at all.

"Substantial numbers of Americans shared President Trump's genuinely-held view that voter fraud affected the results of the 2020 election," the lawyers wrote.


So the fact that a lot of republican rubes believed his lies is supportive evidence that he had good reason to believe his own lies? Is that their position?

Doesn't the fact that numerous members of his own party and cabinet told him he lost and there was no large scale fraud, undermine his argument that he was mentally competent if he isn't a liar?

I guess if they actually file the lawsuit we would get to see trump take the stand and testify under oath as to the basis for these deeply held beliefs.

japhy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:05 pm So they folks who gave us "alternative facts" now give us another gem "subjectively believe".

Former President Donald Trump's legal team threatened to sue the cable network CNN for defamation, and the letter signals his attorneys are using a strategy likely to be a central defense should he ever face criminal charges related to his role in attempts to cling to power despite losing the 2020 election.

In the 282-page document, his lawyers said that the television network repeatedly said that Trump was "lying" and "fed a narrative that denounced President Trump's legitimacy and competency" following the presidential election.

The lawyers said CNN's portrayal of Trump is inaccurate because Trump "subjectively believes" there was election fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

One of the likely defense strategies Trump's lawyers could employ is to argue that he genuinely believed that there was election fraud and did not have the intent to commit a criminal act.

For instance, in the document, the lawyers go into more detail about how Trump did not lie about election fraud by writing the full definition of that word.

"Webster's Dictionary defines a 'lie' as an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive," they wrote. "The definition, then, is not limited to simply being wrong about an assertion; it instead requires the speaker to know he or she is speaking falsely and to specifically harbor an intent to mislead. "

The Trump lawyers also argued that numerous claims after the election suggested that there were problems with vote counting — assertions that would prove baseless and failed in courts when they were presented at all.

"Substantial numbers of Americans shared President Trump's genuinely-held view that voter fraud affected the results of the 2020 election," the lawyers wrote.


So the fact that a lot of republican rubes believed his lies is supportive evidence that he had good reason to believe his own lies? Is that their position?

Doesn't the fact that numerous members of his own party and cabinet told him he lost and there was no large scale fraud, undermine his argument that he was mentally competent if he isn't a liar?

I guess if they actually file the lawsuit we would get to see trump take the stand and testify under oath as to the basis for these deeply held beliefs.

And many child molesters "subjectively believe" that it is OK for adults to have sexual relationships with minors. Good luck with that defense, Mr. Trump. I hope that fool takes the stand in a court case.

Afluenza

Rep. Peter Meijer narrowly loses to Trump-endorsed challenger in Michigan primary

https://www.npr.org/sections/2022-live- ... ry-results

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/democra ... enate-2022

The midterms will be a fascinating look into where we are as a country and what the Supreme Court's decision on Roe vs. Wade will have moving forward.

50% chance-The Purge
45% chance-Handmaids Tale
5% chance- Normal

Today's edition of WTF? I thought this has to be a "photoshop/videoshop".




Maybe not based on the "agenda"?

https://www.indy100.com/politics/cpac-agenda-2022

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:55 am Today's edition of WTF? I thought this has to be a "photoshop/videoshop".




Maybe not based on the "agenda"?

https://www.indy100.com/politics/cpac-agenda-2022

When the desire to "own a lib" becomes your primary function as a political party then your political party ceases to exist for any productive purpose whatsoever. Just sad and pathetic what they have allowed themselves to become.

Sorry, but some of you spend way too much time trying to "own the pubs" to complain about them trying to "own the libs". Imo of course.

Carry on kids.

fortunately, nobody here is an elected representative

imagine the horror of people discussing politics on a politics board

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:37 am When the desire to "own a lib" becomes your primary function as a political party then your political party ceases to exist for any productive purpose whatsoever.

then it should be most easy to defeat them in november.

i look forward to it.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:56 am fortunately, nobody here is an elected representative

imagine the horror of people discussing politics on a politics board

Imagine the horror of people discussing politics at a poltical convention/rally/whatever the fuck you call CPAC.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:52 am Sorry, but some of you spend way too much time trying to "own the pubs" to complain about them trying to "own the libs". Imo of course.

Carry on kids.

As I have stated before, I feel too many people don't spend enough time paying attention to the insane pubs. If you ignore a problem it remains an issue and doesn't get resolved.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:52 am Sorry, but some of you spend way too much time trying to "own the pubs" to complain about them trying to "own the libs". Imo of course.

Carry on kids.

I don't harbor some sort of "you can only complain about something if you have never done something that someone else might complain about" notion as that is ignorant and childish so I think I'll just keep right on complaining about the disgusting actions, events, policies, statements and comments made by members of the GOP and their supporters.

That CPAC conference wasn't limited to just a bunch of random citizens sitting around discussing the state of politics in America. It was a major political event held by the Republican Party and many Republican Party politicians participated. If you don't understand the difference then you're truly stuck in Bothsiderism hell and cannot figure out how to shut that off in your own brain.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:03 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:37 am When the desire to "own a lib" becomes your primary function as a political party then your political party ceases to exist for any productive purpose whatsoever.

then it should be most easy to defeat them in november.

i look forward to it.

except too many of the electorate echo that sentiment



kudos if you aren’t one of them