Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:19 am
oh.
The Randalls of the world simply cannot comprehend that Trump really, truly is a single-issue candidate: himself.
For the sake of this thread, let’s set aside the Ukraine issue specifically.Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:42 pm Randy railing on the"war machine" along with Ousdahl shows the penetration into the information space of Russian disinformation operations. Left and right co-opted by the same message which, on the one hand concerns the cost of national defense and world engagement, and on the other hand screams about human rights. In the instance of Ukraine, they claim it is too costly and human rights don't matter because bad stuff from 1973. Rinse, repeat. It was the tax cuts on the wealthy that created the fiscal disorder, not spending money on American businesses and infrastructure. And we are at a critical point where we can de-fang Russia once and for all. So of course we must stop.
No.
In my opinion, whether we're talking about the 14th Amendment or about the various criminal charges pending against Trump, a resolution that stops short of holding him fully accountable for his actions because of fear of what it would mean politically or socially...is highly damaging to the rule of law (and, accordingly, highly favorable to the rise of authoritarian power).RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:51 pmNo.
if he is guilty of what he is being accused of, I feel he should serve time in prison.
If he's not guilty, I feel he shouldn't serve time in prison.
Regardless of his age, his former job, and if it unifies or divides our country.
100% factjfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:43 pmIn my opinion, whether we're talking about the 14th Amendment or about the various criminal charges pending against Trump, a resolution that stops short of holding him fully accountable for his actions because of fear of what it would mean politically or socially...is highly damaging to the rule of law (and, accordingly, highly favorable to the rise of authoritarian power).RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:51 pmNo.
if he is guilty of what he is being accused of, I feel he should serve time in prison.
If he's not guilty, I feel he shouldn't serve time in prison.
Regardless of his age, his former job, and if it unifies or divides our country.
^^^Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:00 pm100% factjfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:43 pmIn my opinion, whether we're talking about the 14th Amendment or about the various criminal charges pending against Trump, a resolution that stops short of holding him fully accountable for his actions because of fear of what it would mean politically or socially...is highly damaging to the rule of law (and, accordingly, highly favorable to the rise of authoritarian power).RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:51 pm
No.
if he is guilty of what he is being accused of, I feel he should serve time in prison.
If he's not guilty, I feel he shouldn't serve time in prison.
Regardless of his age, his former job, and if it unifies or divides our country.
Of course this joke is actually pretty much what happens.Trump could say in a speech that he pledges to end Social Security, pull us out of NATO, and try Biden’s entire Cabinet for treason, and the regular network (not cable news) and local TV morning shows would lead with the latest poll results and never mention it.
there’s a recent Salon piece that i meant to post that basically says the samejfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:36 am https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/174 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
Of course this joke is actually pretty much what happens.Trump could say in a speech that he pledges to end Social Security, pull us out of NATO, and try Biden’s entire Cabinet for treason, and the regular network (not cable news) and local TV morning shows would lead with the latest poll results and never mention it.
The war machine isn't disinformationSparko wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:42 pm Randy railing on the"war machine" along with Ousdahl shows the penetration into the information space of Russian disinformation operations. Left and right co-opted by the same message which, on the one hand concerns the cost of national defense and world engagement, and on the other hand screams about human rights. In the instance of Ukraine, they claim it is too costly and human rights don't matter because bad stuff from 1973. Rinse, repeat. It was the tax cuts on the wealthy that created the fiscal disorder, not spending money on American businesses and infrastructure. And we are at a critical point where we can de-fang Russia once and for all. So of course we must stop.
Trump’s literal, says-it-out-loud-over-and-over-again position is that the Constitution puts one person outside the reach of the law.KUTradition wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:40 amthere’s a recent Salon piece that i meant to post that basically says the samejfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:36 am https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/174 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
Of course this joke is actually pretty much what happens.Trump could say in a speech that he pledges to end Social Security, pull us out of NATO, and try Biden’s entire Cabinet for treason, and the regular network (not cable news) and local TV morning shows would lead with the latest poll results and never mention it.
it’s the normalization of truly disturbing behavior and comments, and anyone saying they’re just words and bluster hasn’t been paying attention (or is doing so intentionally with some motivations that are very much anti-Democracy)
LOL