Kansas Crimson

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:34 pm Side note:

Look at all those 1 seed years!

10 one seeds and only got bounced twice on the first weekend. Looks like chances improve with a 1 seed. Not much chance of that this season.

AlOerter wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:44 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:34 pm Side note:

Look at all those 1 seed years!

10 one seeds and only got bounced twice on the first weekend. Looks like chances improve with a 1 seed. Not much chance of that this season.

We'd almost have to win out (we'd certainly need to beat both UH and ISU) and then win big 12 tournament to get a 1 seed (by beating at least 1 of UH and/or ISU again).

Don't think that is possible.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:34 pm Side note:

Look at all those 1 seed years!

I am of the mind that Bill Self and AFH turn teams with 3-4 seed level talent into 1 seeds more than any coach/home court in America.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:29 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:26 pm So not exactly lost "a lot" more than won as a 4 seed. (Shocker)

1-1
1-1
0-1
3-1

By my math, that's 5-4

First round? Yes, he was inaccurate as it was just 1 of 4 times. First weekend? He would have been correct as that is 3 of 4.

First round and first weekend are very different.

The fact that we've made it to the round of 32 17 years in a row is incredible and under-discussed. How many times have the other blue bloods been bounced in the first round or not even made it there in that timespan? (rhetorical, but I know the answer is all of them, multiple times)

mjl2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 10:30 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:29 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:26 pm So not exactly lost "a lot" more than won as a 4 seed. (Shocker)

1-1
1-1
0-1
3-1

By my math, that's 5-4

First round? Yes, he was inaccurate as it was just 1 of 4 times. First weekend? He would have been correct as that is 3 of 4.

First round and first weekend are very different.

The fact that we've made it to the round of 32 17 years in a row is incredible and under-discussed. How many times have the other blue bloods been bounced in the first round or not even made it there in that timespan? (rhetorical, but I know the answer is all of them, multiple times)

This.

yea, excuse me.

I meant first weekend, not first round.

it's easy to get those two mixed up, as there's not much difference to a fan with expectations of a final four pretty much every year

but yea, I'm glad Bucknell and Bradley is so far in the rear view mirror

LOL.

Ok.

yea, so Elle Evans has a better grip strength than Dajuan.

But what about her ball handling skills?

Working on that first ban for trolling I see.

There look to be 3 pages here that I haven't read but upon early reading, I don't think i'll bother.

mjl2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 10:30 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:29 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:26 pm So not exactly lost "a lot" more than won as a 4 seed. (Shocker)

1-1
1-1
0-1
3-1

By my math, that's 5-4

First round? Yes, he was inaccurate as it was just 1 of 4 times. First weekend? He would have been correct as that is 3 of 4.

First round and first weekend are very different.

The fact that we've made it to the round of 32 17 years in a row is incredible and under-discussed. How many times have the other blue bloods been bounced in the first round or not even made it there in that timespan? (rhetorical, but I know the answer is all of them, multiple times)

Last missed tourney:
Carolina: 2023
Duke: 2021
Kentucky: 2021
Kansas: 1989

Round of 64 losses as a Top 4 seed:
Kentucky: 2024 as a 3, 2022 as a 2,
Duke: 2014 as a 3, 2012 as a 2
Kansas: 2006 as a 4, 2005 as a 3
Carolina: Never

BiggDick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 10:52 am yea, excuse me.

I meant first weekend, not first round.

it's easy to get those two mixed up, as there's not much difference to a fan with expectations of a final four pretty much every year

but yea, I'm glad Bucknell and Bradley is so far in the rear view mirror

Pretty big different between playing a AQ mid major seeded 13/14 and a 4/5 seed you'd see in the Round of 32. But yeah, it's generally the same level of disappointment.

And we've covered expectations vs. hopes. It's not wise to expect anything in the tourney, let alone a Final Four trip. You're statistically much more likely to be disappointed. I expect a Top 2 seed to make the Sweet Sixteen. Making the Elite Eight is a hope. Making a Final Four is awesome. A 3 or 4 seed? Depends on the team but Bill Self coached teams seeded 3 or 4 seem to have holes in them that result in them usually not getting out of the first weekend. That's what I expect this season so anything better than that will be bonus basketball!

I mostly just hope they don't lose to any double digit seeds that we have to hear about for the next 10 years.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:15 pm Working on that first ban for trolling I see.

I mean, that WAS pretty sad. Five years in the KU S&C program. Yeesh.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:25 pm

mjl2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 10:30 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:29 pm

First round? Yes, he was inaccurate as it was just 1 of 4 times. First weekend? He would have been correct as that is 3 of 4.

First round and first weekend are very different.

The fact that we've made it to the round of 32 17 years in a row is incredible and under-discussed. How many times have the other blue bloods been bounced in the first round or not even made it there in that timespan? (rhetorical, but I know the answer is all of them, multiple times)

Last missed tourney:
Carolina: 2023
Duke: 2021
Kentucky: 2021
Kansas: 1989

Round of 64 losses as a Top 4 seed:
Kentucky: 2024 as a 3, 2022 as a 2,
Duke: 2014 as a 3, 2012 as a 2
Kansas: 2006 as a 4, 2005 as a 3
Carolina: Never

Oh, wow, you're far less lazy than me.

Although I wouldn't have narrowed it to losses as a top 4 seed - for instance, UNC lost as an 8 seed in the first round in 2021. I'd say that's worse than losing in the first round as a top 4 seed because it means they had an entire season of shittiness.

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:10 pm it's nuts that 06 was defensively that good.

If there's something this team has that those teams lacked, it's experience.

06 and 19 in particular were young. This season has prob literally the most combined years we've ever had in a starting lineup. That's nice to have in March.

Most experienced team ever indivually, but also really inexperienced playing together and in Self's system

This team still has room for a lot of growth m

goddamnit they let you back just in time for the Scott Drew Sucks game huh randy

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:34 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:15 pm Working on that first ban for trolling I see.

I mean, that WAS pretty sad. Five years in the KU S&C program. Yeesh.

Six years, but who's counting.

I don't think it's necessarily an indictment of the S&C program, so much as it is just a matter of fact that one particular athlete is just not particularly strong. That's ok tho! There's a lot more to basketball than grip strength.

I mean, the S&C program seems to be doing well with other players.

Related, and in other news: KJ is so fucking strong that even his hairdo looks swole now.

for real, Dajuan would struggle to even comb that shit!

Wonder if Elle Evans can dunk?

My guess is no.