Kansas Crimson

Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:06 pm

KU76erfan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:44 pm Excited to see Och here in SLC

Wait, you don't live in Philly?

I thought Trad was the SLC'er

InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:17 am From The Athletic:

NBA Players With The Most To Prove In 2022-2023

Utah Jazz: Udoka Azubuike

To this point of his career, Udoka Azubuike has been a punchline. A mistaken draft pick. A big reason the Utah Jazz didn’t take the next step. Now, he enters a season where he may well be fighting for his NBA career. There is a decent chance the Jazz don’t pick up the fourth-year option on his rookie contract. He’s never been a rotation player. His two years in Utah have been marred by injury. But option or not, Azubuike will have his clearest path to regular NBA playing time this season. There’s no Rudy Gobert to soak up most of the minutes. He will have an opportunity. And for him, that’s a good thing, because he has yet to prove he can play in this league. And he will have to do so if he wants to stay in it.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:17 am “ To this point of his career, Udoka Azubuike has been a punchline. A mistaken draft pick. A big reason the Utah Jazz didn’t take the next step.”

No.
He was the 27th overall pick.
What?

Sparko wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:17 am Dok has a history of injuries. But he is a force in the paint and was a great situational pick at 27. Easily could play meaningful minutes on any team that values lane presence.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:03 pmI tend to lean towards incompetent because I am not sure how you could have a personal vendetta against a guy who rarely played and was probably never interviewed by the media.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:19 pm

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:03 pmI tend to lean towards incompetent because I am not sure how you could have a personal vendetta against a guy who rarely played and was probably never interviewed by the media.

Me neither, but that suggests a vendetta to me. How can you pick a guy that has bounced back and forth on/off the active roster and say he's a big reason the team didn't take the next step? He was not drafted to be the final piece. Seems targeted.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:23 pm He was drafted to spell Gobert.
A 27th pick, who was 20 when you drafted him, that you want getting 10-14 MPG, isn't a big reason you didn't take the next step.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:30 pm
My only guess is because the guy thinks 1st round pick always means you're supposed be an immediate impact guy. But Dok was not viewed (or drafted) as such.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:35 pm

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:30 pm
My only guess is because the guy thinks 1st round pick always means you're supposed be an immediate impact guy. But Dok was not viewed (or drafted) as such.

But this isn't true.
Not after the lotto imo.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:11 am The only thing that can explain the "punchline" comment is that this guy might have hated the Udoka pick from the beginning and now he's trying to manufacture some sort of I-told-you-so cred. Just dumb.

Mistaken draft pick is still a stretch because it's the frickin' 27th pick. Hindsight might say the Jazz would have been better off taking a higher-upside prospect at that pick for a trade asset, and also I've personally thought the Jazz were crazy to think that they were contenders, so why are they taking a depth piece with a low ceiling in Udoka? But, again, what else can you count on at 27th overall?

Has to have some kind of agenda.

InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:35 pm Here's the guy who wrote the Dok blurb:

https://twitter.com/tjonesonthenba/?lang=en