Kansas Crimson

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:12 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:39 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:27 pm

DC apologizes but is exceptionally busy at the moment.

In brief: Putin is evil. Putin is the aggressor in Ukraine. Putin should be kicked in the nuts as frequently as possible.

At the same time, the American policy of slow but steady escalation in aid (and, now, training) has been disastrous. It's been a slow enough burn that it never actually helps Ukraine, but fast enough that it provides the guys working at Lockheed with enough extra scratch to ensure that they can make the payments on the new chlorine-free, salt-water pools they're putting in. We HAVE boots on the ground in Ukraine; they're there to "train our allies" which is nice (but which would be triggering nostalgic seizures on this board, if we had any Boomers here old enough to remember how Kennedy's "best and brightest" sold Vietnam).

As with every conflict in which we've been involved over the last 25 years, we have no idea when victory will be achieved because we have no idea what victory is supposed to look like. That's something we can work out later -- always. Our strategy -- such as it is -- has been articulated and sold to official Washington and to the public by the same group of dipshits who sold the last two wars. Sadly, many of them (looking at you, Bill Kristol) see opposition to Putin as a proxy for opposition to Trump, which is to say that, to them, this is personal, not patriotic.

So far, the only winners from the policy advocated by the Bipartisan Washington Consensus are those who were smart enough to be heavy into defense stocks prior to Feb. 2022.

i don’t think that’s what ousie wanted you to say

actually, this is more or less exactly what I wanted DC to say.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:17 pm Finland in with NATO

Sweden, not quite yet

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:48 am https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... rt/673544/

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:42 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:48 am https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... rt/673544/

yea..but.....have you tried just sitting with him, smoking a bowl with him. Maybe doing some light meditation. Then...just talking through the situation with him, apologizing for the world's obvious aggression towards him? Maybe offering him further leniency and respect and like maybe half of Ukraine?

Then, like, maybe...itd all be good man...and we can like just....all share man, all get along and like.....hug and shit. Put on some phish jams....itll all work out bro. If we jist take a new approach, he can bring the tanks, were gonna bring the bong man. right on.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:30 am ummmm

seems pretty heavy on the generally dramatic tone, and verbiage of absolutes. As such, doesn't exactly come across as objective journalism.

but, since I couldn't read most of the article cuz it's behind a paywall, guess I just gotta ask:

so what IS the only realistic answer to Putin?

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:59 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:30 am ummmm

seems pretty heavy on the generally dramatic tone, and verbiage of absolutes. As such, doesn't exactly come across as objective journalism.

but, since I couldn't read most of the article cuz it's behind a paywall, guess I just gotta ask:

so what IS the only realistic answer to Putin?

dissappear the motherfucker? Perhaps he has an unfortunate slip in the stairwell and falls out one of the many many open windows in Russia.

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:59 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:30 am ummmm

seems pretty heavy on the generally dramatic tone, and verbiage of absolutes. As such, doesn't exactly come across as objective journalism.

but, since I couldn't read most of the article cuz it's behind a paywall, guess I just gotta ask:

so what IS the only realistic answer to Putin?

dissappear the motherfucker? Perhaps he has an unfortunate slip in the stairwell and falls out one of the many many open windows in Russia.