Just listen to what he said the last time he opened his mouth or read the last thing he posted on twitter.
Re: republicans have no shame
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:41 pm
by dolomite
Not good enough Defix. Since there are so many “lies” common sense tells me you can quote at least one whopper and one that could get his ass impeached!
Re: republicans have no shame
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:15 am
by Shirley
Gee, what a surprise! In their never-ending efforts to suppress the vote because their policies are so unpopular, republicans in Florida have decided to enact a new poll tax:
I like when Trump claims he never said something, a week after he was taped saying it.
Re: republicans have no shame
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:43 pm
by TDub
Feral wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:15 am
Gee, what a surprise! In their never-ending efforts to suppress the vote because their policies are so unpopular, republicans in Florida have decided to enact a new poll tax:
You lose your drivers license until you pay associate fines. Is that bad? Should we not hold people accountable for their convictions?
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:45 pm
you shouldn't have to pay to vote...period
People in prison cant vote. If you dont pay your fines you end up with a warrant and go to jail eventually. Why is it a bad idea to make people pay their fines before they can participate in our system? Theres an easy way to avoid that, dont commit offenses that require payment.
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:45 pm
you shouldn't have to pay to vote...period
People in prison cant vote. If you dont pay your fines you end up with a warrant and go to jail eventually. Why is it a bad idea to make people pay their fines before they can participate in our system? Theres an easy way to avoid that, dont commit offenses that require payment.
if only it were as cut and dry as that
and related, i’m not entirely convinced that at least some of those who are incarcerated shouldn’t be allowed to vote
Re: republicans have no shame
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:44 pm
by Shirley
When 64% of Florida voters, in a red state, passed the citizens initiative to amend the state constitution to allow people who have served their sentences, (excluding those convicted of murder or felony sexual crimes), to vote, we didn't include: "and after you've paid your fines". They've paid their debt to society, maybe gtf off their backs? If they don't pay their fines in the requisite amount of time, deal with it under the law.
It comes as no surprise that republicans have come up with yet another excuse to suppress the votes of a demographic they know aren't likely to vote for them, disproportionately, low-income African American, American citizens.
While incarcerated and paying their debt to society, violent/terrorist, (but not non-violent), criminals, should forfeit their right to vote.
Re: republicans have no shame
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:05 am
by Shirley
Does anyone else wonder if the "honorable" Senator Lindsey Graham would be still be acting as Trump's lap dog now, if John McCain was still alive? Because I do. Like budget deficits and the national debt, republicans only care about "cleansing the office", when a democrat is president:
The drama of Stephen Moore, Donald Trump’s controversial not-yet-nominee for a seat on the Federal Reserve, is a nice microcosm of the larger drama of conservatism in a Trumpian age. In the monetary policy debate that lurks behind the Fed battle, you can see some of the reasons for Trump’s political success. In the Moore appointment itself you can see the limits of Trumpism as an ideological program. And in the reaction to the appointment from Republican politicians you can see why the party may be destined to repeat its Trump-era experience, and also how it might avoid that fate.
First, the policy. Our president’s past views on monetary policy range all over the map; he has been both an inflation hawk and an inflation dove, and he obviously has no definite and deeply held views on monetary issues, as he has no definite and deeply held views on many other topics.
But as on other issues, that lack of ideological mooring has enabled him to break loose from the stale formulas, the always-1979 assumptions, that defined a lot of conservative thinking in the last 10 years.
Shaped by the battles of the inflationary 1970s, much of the right reacted to the financial crisis and its aftermath by critiquing Ben Bernanke’s Fed for its interventionism and warning about imminent inflation. A few conservative journalists and economists dissented, arguing that the situation was very different, the ’70s weren’t returning, and if anything the Fed’s policy had been too hawkish. But you had to listen hard to hear them; for the most part institutional conservatism and Republican politicians kept up a steady “inflation is coming” beat.
Actual economic trends, however, vindicated the dissidents. And now Trump himself, for instinctive and opportunistic reasons, has taken up a crude version of their argument, jawboning Jerome Powell to discourage rate increases (a self-interested position, but also the correct one) and trying to elevate Moore in part because he currently shares the White House’s dovish line.
But a lot hangs on that “currently.” Historically Moore has not been an inflation dove; indeed when it counted he was a predictable inflation hawk, calling for monetary tightening in the teeth of the Great Recession. So it’s hard to escape the impression that his newfound dovishness is simply a hack’s adaptation to whatever Trump demands. Especially because — let’s be completely blunt here — Moore’s entire record of writings and arguments are hackish, his prominence a testament to cable-television’s appetite for partisans with think-tank titles, and those titles a testament to conservatism’s decadence.
So while Trump’s embrace of dovishness is moving the Republican Party in a sensible direction on the issue, his personnel moves aren’t rewarding the dissidents who were correct ahead of time. Instead, after making some respectable but uncreative picks, he’s trying to bring in yes-men and conservative-entertainment personalities (like his other, since-withdrawn choice for the Fed, Herman Cain) and relying on their loyalty rather than their ideas to make the policy he favors.