Kansas Crimson

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:21 am Josh was in foul trouble much of that elite 8 game.

And the ducks just looked like such a longer team.

Dunno how KU manages to look small so often - especially last year, when we were otherwise top to bottom the biggest starting lineup we’d ever had

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:42 pm I'm not saying it's fair. I'm just saying that, fair or unfair, Final Fours are where a pretty hard line is drawn in college basketball.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:31 am

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:21 am Josh was in foul trouble much of that elite 8 game.

And the ducks just looked like such a longer team.

Dunno how KU manages to look small so often - especially last year, when we were otherwise top to bottom the biggest starting lineup we’d ever had

We just haven’t been very athletic in quite a while. Even those really good teams, not a lot of high end athletes.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:05 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:49 am

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:02 pm Imagine having a point who not only had to be guarded but often given help defense for and then imagine that point could also pass to the post.

DMac would love it.

I think our lack of having a point guard that had to be defended and could shoot the past 2 seasons has really really hurt Dave's legacy here. Not saying some of that aint on him, but it doesn't help.

Imagine if he would've been in landens situation, with devonte and frank out there

Even a roster with Frank, Devonte and Josh Jackson couldn't drag Lucas to a Final Four.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:56 am And that Oregon team had pros on their roster. It wasn't some big time upset.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:24 am Och is showing more bounce this year. Finishing impossible lobs like he was earlier in his career.

I think people need to think about stuff like that when they bitch about him not going all out on defense. This is very 2012 T-Rob situation.

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:08 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:24 am Och is showing more bounce this year. Finishing impossible lobs like he was earlier in his career.

I think people need to think about stuff like that when they bitch about him not going all out on defense. This is very 2012 T-Rob situation.

If we can use 2012 TRob as a metric, is Och competing with any unibrow type player this year who’s head and shoulders above the other POY candidates?

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:21 am

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:08 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:24 am Och is showing more bounce this year. Finishing impossible lobs like he was earlier in his career.

I think people need to think about stuff like that when they bitch about him not going all out on defense. This is very 2012 T-Rob situation.

If we can use 2012 TRob as a metric, is Och competing with any unibrow type player this year who’s head and shoulders above the other POY candidates?

Tshiebwe seems like PoY so far with Agbaji close behind.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:52 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:21 am

Qusdahl wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:08 am

If we can use 2012 TRob as a metric, is Och competing with any unibrow type player this year who’s head and shoulders above the other POY candidates?

Tshiebwe seems like PoY so far with Agbaji close behind.

Pretty sure the Wisconsin dude is way out front.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:18 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:52 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:21 am

Tshiebwe seems like PoY so far with Agbaji close behind.

Pretty sure the Wisconsin dude is way out front.

Nah, it's anyone's race still.

From yesterday.

Oscar Tshiebwe (Kentucky) +550
Kofi Cockburn (Illinois) +600
Johnny Davis (Wisconsin) +650
Ochai Agbaji (Kansas) +650
Drew Timme (Gonzaga) +1000
Paolo Banchero (Duke) +1000

https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-ba ... den-award/

Och playing well today helps out.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:38 pm Kofi going to be tough to beat.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:54 am Och is giving me B Rush vibes.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:13 am

sdoyel wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:54 am Och is giving me B Rush vibes.

Except Och is a better ball handler.


What's interesting is that as Rush's 3pt attempts per game increased his 3pt shooting % went down....but as Och's 3pt attempts per game have increased so has his 3pt shooting %. That's impressive.