To your last point...the wild card here is the transfer portal. Dave does a lot of nice things, but they don't fit well into what we like to do. One possibility of course is that Bill finds someone experienced, who does fit in.
As Remy has proven, there is no guarantee that a transfer will fit in. It's a roll of the dice. If he leaves and we go with what we have or grab someone out of the portal, I am happy. If he comes back, I am happy. Win-win.
As I stated before, I am really happy that DMac has closed out the season the way he has. He came up huge for KU in several key games and that will be the part of his career I look back on most favorably. I'll still chuckle about his oven mitt hands and his propensity to not just take the damn ball up but he has been a key cog in a Final Four team who has overcome his own limitations to succeed.
First world problems though.
What has Remy proven? I thought he has fit in very well. Even before his injury, while Och and CB were crushing the non-con, he was a very, very good 3rd (at worst) option. Getting hurt doesn't mean he wasn't fitting in.
He was a hot mess to start the season and didn't fit in the offense at all but it's not something I feel like arguing over for the next hour.
Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:24 pm
by KUTradition
Remy’s D seems markedly improved, but who knows if that’s comfort, health, or literally just buying in and being committed on that end of the floor
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:06 pm
As Remy has proven, there is no guarantee that a transfer will fit in. It's a roll of the dice. If he leaves and we go with what we have or grab someone out of the portal, I am happy. If he comes back, I am happy. Win-win.
As I stated before, I am really happy that DMac has closed out the season the way he has. He came up huge for KU in several key games and that will be the part of his career I look back on most favorably. I'll still chuckle about his oven mitt hands and his propensity to not just take the damn ball up but he has been a key cog in a Final Four team who has overcome his own limitations to succeed.
First world problems though.
What has Remy proven? I thought he has fit in very well. Even before his injury, while Och and CB were crushing the non-con, he was a very, very good 3rd (at worst) option. Getting hurt doesn't mean he wasn't fitting in.
He was a hot mess to start the season and didn't fit in the offense at all but it's not something I feel like arguing over for the next hour.
You're not wrong. He was lost on offense. And defense may have been worse. He obviously needed time, which is not uncommon for our newcomers. Glad he kept a positive attitude and kept working hard. Also glad he's healthy again. Knee stuff sucks.
To your last point...the wild card here is the transfer portal. Dave does a lot of nice things, but they don't fit well into what we like to do. One possibility of course is that Bill finds someone experienced, who does fit in.
I don't think Dave is going to find a coach that believes in him more than Bill does.
Timely.
Not that he would or should have played over Dave, but that reminds me of this guy's finish to the season:
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:06 pm
As Remy has proven, there is no guarantee that a transfer will fit in. It's a roll of the dice. If he leaves and we go with what we have or grab someone out of the portal, I am happy. If he comes back, I am happy. Win-win.
As I stated before, I am really happy that DMac has closed out the season the way he has. He came up huge for KU in several key games and that will be the part of his career I look back on most favorably. I'll still chuckle about his oven mitt hands and his propensity to not just take the damn ball up but he has been a key cog in a Final Four team who has overcome his own limitations to succeed.
First world problems though.
What has Remy proven? I thought he has fit in very well. Even before his injury, while Och and CB were crushing the non-con, he was a very, very good 3rd (at worst) option. Getting hurt doesn't mean he wasn't fitting in.
He was a hot mess to start the season and didn't fit in the offense at all but it's not something I feel like arguing over for the next hour.
Numbers were pretty solid pre-injury, but no doubt that the injury mostly hurt him in the rep/comfort area.
Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:28 pm
by Deleted User 863
KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:24 pm
Remy’s D seems markedly improved, but who knows if that’s comfort, health, or literally just buying in and being committed on that end of the floor
I think part of it is a better understanding of our defensive concepts. We play a very team oriented style of defense. That comes with time.
Glad he's got it figured out. He's been big time. On both ends of the court.
Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:28 pm
by jfish26
(was responding to CnB)
Fair enough, but a lot of 0s and 1s in the field I'm most interested in.
Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:31 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:24 pm
Remy’s D seems markedly improved, but who knows if that’s comfort, health, or literally just buying in and being committed on that end of the floor
Read the Athletic article on him. Was not a commitment issue but more the fact that it was a complete reprograming that needed time and reps. Injury halted that. It's a testament to all involved that we got to this point.
It's also interesting to note that, despite being labeled a big numbers guy on a bad team, ASU had never been to two straight tournaments prior to Remy. Ever. Were it not for COVID, they would have made 3 straight NCAA's.
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:28 pm
(was responding to CnB)
Fair enough, but a lot of 0s and 1s in the field I'm most interested in.
It's water under the bridge. The averages in Nov-Dec probably look about right if he were able to play healthy during conference.
And also highlights how bad 2021 was put together that we felt like we needed a guard to transfer in and score a lot right away. The better use of the one-year transfer is to add a single skillset--3's, rebounding, whatever.
KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:24 pm
Remy’s D seems markedly improved, but who knows if that’s comfort, health, or literally just buying in and being committed on that end of the floor
Read the Athletic article on him. Was not a commitment issue but more the fact that it was a complete reprograming that needed time and reps. Injury halted that. It's a testament to all involved that we got to this point.
It's also interesting to note that, despite being labeled a big numbers guy on a bad team, ASU had never been to two straight tournaments prior to Remy. Ever. Were it not for COVID, they would have made 3 straight NCAA's.
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:28 pm
(was responding to CnB)
Fair enough, but a lot of 0s and 1s in the field I'm most interested in.
It's water under the bridge. The averages in Nov-Dec probably look about right if he were able to play healthy during conference.
And also highlights how bad 2021 was put together that we felt like we needed a guard to transfer in and score a lot right away. The better use of the one-year transfer is to add a single skillset--3's, rebounding, whatever.
(Curry blocked four shots all year. I want a guy back there who blocks four shots a game with some regularity.)
Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:49 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Remy played 10 games in Nov/Dec before getting hurt against NV. He scored in double figures in 8 of those. The two that he did not, he scored zero points--games we won by 27 and 26 points. Averaged 20.5 minutes in those.
Those 10 games including the goose eggs: 10.9 points; 3.2 assists; 4.1 rebs; 49.2% FG; 38.7 3P%; 27-34 FT's (79.4%)
That's a lot better than Marcus Carr's first 10 games, the other prized PG transfer.
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:28 pm
(was responding to CnB)
Fair enough, but a lot of 0s and 1s in the field I'm most interested in.
It's water under the bridge. The averages in Nov-Dec probably look about right if he were able to play healthy during conference.
And also highlights how bad 2021 was put together that we felt like we needed a guard to transfer in and score a lot right away. The better use of the one-year transfer is to add a single skillset--3's, rebounding, whatever.
(Curry blocked four shots all year. I want a guy back there who blocks four shots a game with some regularity.)
Cam Martin!
Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:56 pm
by Back2Lawrence
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:49 pm
Remy played 10 games in Nov/Dec before getting hurt against NV. He scored in double figures in 8 of those. The two that he did not, he scored zero points--games we won by 27 and 26 points. Averaged 20.5 minutes in those.
Those 10 games including the goose eggs: 10.9 points; 3.2 assists; 4.1 rebs; 49.2% FG; 38.7 3P%; 27-34 FT's (79.4%)
That's a lot better than Marcus Carr's first 10 games, the other prized PG transfer.
He had decent numbers, but didn’t look great and seemed to make a lot of mistakes as if the game (or just his play) was too fast at the moment.
It’s not insignificant, either, that the longer than expected absence also helped him get better defensively, which has been obvious from the entire team.
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:49 pm
Remy played 10 games in Nov/Dec before getting hurt against NV. He scored in double figures in 8 of those. The two that he did not, he scored zero points--games we won by 27 and 26 points. Averaged 20.5 minutes in those.
Those 10 games including the goose eggs: 10.9 points; 3.2 assists; 4.1 rebs; 49.2% FG; 38.7 3P%; 27-34 FT's (79.4%)
That's a lot better than Marcus Carr's first 10 games, the other prized PG transfer.
He had decent numbers, but didn’t look great and seemed to make a lot of mistakes as if the game (or just his play) was too fast at the moment.
It’s not insignificant, either, that the longer than expected absence also helped him get better defensively, which has been obvious from the entire team.
Agree. Just think his first 10 games, without changing a single thing, would be perceived way differently if he didn't have the setback in the middle of the season. He wasn't awful. He was average to good. The narrative coming into the season was about him meshing with a completely different style of team.