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Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:10 am
by MICHHAWK
stay on topic.

we are talking about the worlddeadbeatorder pulling off the teet because they don't like us since wednesday morning.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:15 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:10 am stay on topic.

we are talking about the worlddeadbeatorder pulling off the teet because they don't like since wednesday morning.
This very much is on topic. You have chosen to end the post-WW2 global order, from which you have personally derived enormous, enormous benefit.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:28 am
by MICHHAWK
i know it has been awhile. but i do not recall the world pulling off the teet in 2016.



maybe they did. but i doubt it.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:52 am
by jfish26
The circumstances are completely different. Swallowing the crazy pills this time because they didn't kill us last time is world-historical recklessness.

And to be very clear, I very much hope that we suffer so little consequences of that recklessness that you can throw these posts in my face in four years.

I am just not optimistic of that.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:09 am
by Overlander
jfish26 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:52 am The circumstances are completely different. Swallowing the crazy pills this time because they didn't kill us last time is world-historical recklessness.

And to be very clear, I very much hope that we suffer so little consequences of that recklessness that you can throw these posts in my face in four years.

I am just not optimistic of that.
Optimism is dead.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:17 am
by jfish26
Overlander wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:09 am
jfish26 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:52 am The circumstances are completely different. Swallowing the crazy pills this time because they didn't kill us last time is world-historical recklessness.

And to be very clear, I very much hope that we suffer so little consequences of that recklessness that you can throw these posts in my face in four years.

I am just not optimistic of that.
Optimism is dead.
I won't agree with that. I'm not old enough to fall back into resentment and, ultimately, resignation. And I'm not ok with my kids seeing that in me.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:29 am
by MICHHAWK
nobody under the age of 30 gives a hoot about politics.

30 is generous. probably closer to 40.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:32 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:29 am nobody under the age of 30 gives a hoot about politics.
(That age group delivered your outcome.)

In any case - my kids will remember what I do over these next few years.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:35 am
by DeletedUser
It's very interesting to see the differences in reactions.

Half the country thinks the country is fucked.

Half the country thinks the country is saved.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:36 am
by Overlander
jfish26 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:32 am
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:29 am nobody under the age of 30 gives a hoot about politics.
In any case - my kids will remember what I do over these next few years.
And that is what matters most.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:42 am
by jfish26
DeletedUser wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:35 am It's very interesting to see the differences in reactions.

Half the country thinks the country is fucked.

Half the country thinks the country is saved.
Obviously I did not want Trump to win.

I think it's going to be a disaster, and the question is whether we're talking Covid-level (highly localized pain), or 2008-09 level (widespread pain), or Great Depression level (widespread destruction).

But, my present point of view is that if Trump were to win, this way is significantly preferable to a murkier way. A few thousand votes in a couple counties, outright and acute cheating, emergency litigation and December-January maneuvering.

It is better that we bought the ticket and will need to ride the ride, wherever it takes us.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:45 am
by MICHHAWK
put me in the column that has no reaction.

like all presidents, he will do almost nothing that he said he would. it won't be as bad as some say. it won't be as good as some say. it will be meh.

2 years from now we will be cranking up the 2028 election cycle.

4 years from now, we will be electing whatever we elect.

rinse and repeat. rinse and repeat.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:59 am
by KUTradition
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:45 am put me in the column that has no reaction.
says the guy with how many posts on this topic over the past 48ish hours?

clown

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:08 pm
by MICHHAWK
12 in this thread. and not one of them expresses joy or sorrow.

this is #13.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:15 pm
by MICHHAWK
i'm a cagey veteran. i know that one election does not a country maketh. and one election does not a country unmaketh.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:15 pm
by KUTradition
nothing if not predictable

good job

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:16 pm
by KUTradition
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:15 pm i'm a cagey veteran. i know that one election does not a country maketh. and one election does not a country unmaketh.
you’re a willfully ignorant fool

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:53 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
DeletedUser wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:35 am It's very interesting to see the differences in reactions.

Half the country thinks the country is fucked.

Half the country thinks the country is saved.
It's a PICK 'EM!

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:57 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
jfish26 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:32 am
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:29 am nobody under the age of 30 gives a hoot about politics.
(That age group delivered your outcome.)

In any case - my kids will remember what I do over these next few years.
Well, you're kind of off to a bad start. You are spending an awful lot of time on here participating in a meaningless (or at least non productive?) circle jerk.
I'mjustsayin'.

Re: America Failed

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:58 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:45 am put me in the column that has no reaction.

like all presidents, he will do almost nothing that he said he would. it won't be as bad as some say. it won't be as good as some say. it will be meh.

2 years from now we will be cranking up the 2028 election cycle.

4 years from now, we will be electing whatever we elect.

rinse and repeat. rinse and repeat.
Yes.
In regards to your second, third, and fourth sentences. As well as your sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth.