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So...What does Cuomo mean by "the same evil we saw on 9/11?" Poor choice of words? Or is he making an accusation?

defixione wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:47 pm I heard that report on NPR the other day by one of the authors. Seems that the only thing they weren't accurate about was the location of the initial outbreak. They forecasted Chicago not Seattle.

Why Chicago?

And they were also, thankfully enough, wrong in their prediction of civil disorder.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:45 pm

defixione wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:47 pm I heard that report on NPR the other day by one of the authors. Seems that the only thing they weren't accurate about was the location of the initial outbreak. They forecasted Chicago not Seattle.

Why Chicago?

And they were also, thankfully enough, wrong in their prediction of civil disorder.

So far?

good point.


*pokes DC in the eye and takes his toilet paper*

Real sign in real Chicago restaurant.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:45 pm So...What does Cuomo mean by "the same evil we saw on 9/11?" Poor choice of words? Or is he making an accusation?

Good question. Do you think our Surgeon General might be qualified to give a good response to it?
I'm going to go with poor choice of words.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:42 pm If true, HUGE. (A big IF, of course)

https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/530 ... s-antibody

A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus.

Sumaya Owaynat, a phlebotomy technician, said she tests between 400 and 600 patients on an average day in the parking lot at Roseland Community Hospital. Drive-thru testing is from 9 a.m. to noon and 1 to 4 p.m. each day. However, the hospital has a limited number of tests they can give per day.

Owaynat said the number of patients coming through the testing center who appear to have already had coronavirus and gotten over it is far greater than those who currently have the disease.

That would be huge. Let's hope she's right.

In the mid-80s between my first and second year of medical school, I was a phlebotomy tech in the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit at KU Med. The possibility that I would in any capacity whatsoever have been in contact, let alone discussing lab results with a member of the media is unimaginable, much less than zero. Of course, I wasn't working in parking lot during a pandemic, but still...

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:45 pm So...What does Cuomo mean by "the same evil we saw on 9/11?" Poor choice of words? Or is he making an accusation?

It’s code for “camel jockeys”.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:48 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:45 pm

defixione wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:47 pm I heard that report on NPR the other day by one of the authors. Seems that the only thing they weren't accurate about was the location of the initial outbreak. They forecasted Chicago not Seattle.

Why Chicago?

And they were also, thankfully enough, wrong in their prediction of civil disorder.

So far?

If they don’t get the economy back up and running the first week of May, you will see major civil unrest. Guaranteed.

Feral wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:38 pm
In the mid-80s between my first and second year of medical school, I was a phlebotomy tech in the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit at KU Med. The possibility that I would in any capacity whatsoever have been in contact, let alone discussing lab results with a member of the media is unimaginable, much less than zero. Of course, I wasn't working in parking lot during a pandemic, but still...

That's the part I wondered about too. Seems like something the hospital would be genuinely unhappy about -- whether or not it's a technical privacy violation.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:45 pm So...What does Cuomo mean by "the same evil we saw on 9/11?" Poor choice of words? Or is he making an accusation?

this strikes me almost like he's trying to personify the virus?

but yeah, either way a weird way to put it

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:15 pm https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... ast-summer

In a remarkably prophetic report last summer, the Federal Emergency Management Agency accurately predicted that a nationwide pandemic would result in a shortage of medical supplies, hospitals would be overwhelmed and the economy would shut down...

One could almost imagine that it was a planned and orchestrated event, brought about for a purpose that would benefit the perpetrators.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:12 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:45 pm So...What does Cuomo mean by "the same evil we saw on 9/11?" Poor choice of words? Or is he making an accusation?

this strikes me almost like he's trying to personify the virus?

but yeah, either way a weird way to put it

The evil part? No. People use anthropomorphism all the time. Nothing weird about that.

Equating randomness to 9/11, however, is odd and wrong.

Two separate research projects suggest that the novel coronavirus may have been circulating in New York City earlier than thought and the earliest cases likely originated with travelers coming from Europe and other parts of the United States, not Asia.

The new data come from the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and the NYU Grossman School of Medicine.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/health/n ... index.html

seahawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:38 pm Two separate research projects suggest that the novel coronavirus may have been circulating in New York City earlier than thought and the earliest cases likely originated with travelers coming from Europe and other parts of the United States, not Asia.

The new data come from the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and the NYU Grossman School of Medicine.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/health/n ... index.html

Same in California. Stanford is conducting a study to ascertain this. A friend is convinced that he had this virus and not the flu in mid January. They are theorizing that we have been exposed since November as we had thousands of travelers from China coming here. We had 26 daily widebody flights to and from Asia just at SFO.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:25 pm

"We have parts of the country that are in phenomenal shape already".
Why do I have the feeling that many of the places that Trump claims are in "phenomenal shape (already?)" haven't been hit with the virus - yet?