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Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:33 pm
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:22 pm Diallo taking minutes from Perry is an all time dumb hot take. Perry was a fucking AA that year.
I know Perry was AA, but he was also notorious for going MIA in the big games - you know, the kinds of games in which he might be matched up against NBA-caliber talent.

If nova was more of an outlier, that woulda been a less difficult pill to swallow, than it was just yet again Perry being Perry.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:35 pm
by ousdahl
But shit.

Let’s try to dial down the bickering about rotations from like last decade.

Can’t we look ahead?

Where’s the hot take on south Asian soup joints in El Paso?

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:35 pm
by PhDhawk
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:33 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:22 pm Diallo taking minutes from Perry is an all time dumb hot take. Perry was a fucking AA that year.
I know Perry was AA, but he was also notorious for going MIA in the big games - you know, the kinds of games in which he might be matched up against NBA-caliber talent.

If nova was more of an outlier, that woulda been a less difficult pill to swallow, than it was just yet again Perry being Perry.
So, you'd have rather played diallo and lost by 25 instead of 5?

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:37 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:33 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:22 pm Diallo taking minutes from Perry is an all time dumb hot take. Perry was a fucking AA that year.
I know Perry was AA, but he was also notorious for going MIA in the big games - you know, the kinds of games in which he might be matched up against NBA-caliber talent.

If nova was more of an outlier, that woulda been a less difficult pill to swallow, than it was just yet again Perry being Perry.
Revisionist history.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:40 pm
by ousdahl
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:35 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:33 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:22 pm Diallo taking minutes from Perry is an all time dumb hot take. Perry was a fucking AA that year.
I know Perry was AA, but he was also notorious for going MIA in the big games - you know, the kinds of games in which he might be matched up against NBA-caliber talent.

If nova was more of an outlier, that woulda been a less difficult pill to swallow, than it was just yet again Perry being Perry.
So, you'd have rather played diallo and lost by 25 instead of 5?
Not really a valid way to think about it, but neither is this:

I would have rather rolled the dice on Cheick producing more than 4 points in 34 minutes like Perry.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:42 pm
by Deleted User 863
Dumb.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:42 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:13 pm Diallo’s currently averaging 13 and 8 in the G league.

He’s at 5 points and 4 boreds in 12 mpg in his nba career average. Currently trying to wrap my mind around how a guy can average more career minutes in the NBA than he did in college.
1) Developing later
2) Longer games

1) Joel Embiid averaged 23 mpg in college and 30 mpg in the NBA. Devin Booker averaged 21mpg in college and 33mpg in the NBA
2) Steph Curry averaged 32mpg in college and 34 mpg in the NBA. Michael Jordan averaged 30mpg in college and 36mpg in the NBA

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:46 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:40 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:35 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:33 pm

I know Perry was AA, but he was also notorious for going MIA in the big games - you know, the kinds of games in which he might be matched up against NBA-caliber talent.

If nova was more of an outlier, that woulda been a less difficult pill to swallow, than it was just yet again Perry being Perry.
So, you'd have rather played diallo and lost by 25 instead of 5?
Not really a valid way to think about it, but neither is this:

I would have rather rolled the dice on Cheick producing more than 4 points in 34 minutes like Perry.
You only make that kind of idiotic decision after the fact with results in hand.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:47 pm
by ousdahl
Actually, I was critical of Perry’s softness in real time too.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:48 pm
by ousdahl
But god dammit you guys.

Can’t we just get back to you giving me shit about eating Christian Braun crow or something?

Er, Crauw

Like for real get out of my thread. Go start your own “15-16 lineup” thread or some shit.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:49 pm
by MICHHAWK
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:33 pm I know Perry was AA, but he was also notorious for going MIA in the big games - you know, the kinds of games in which he might be matched up against NBA-caliber talent.

If nova was more of an outlier, that woulda been a less difficult pill to swallow, than it was just yet again Perry being Perry.
get some new material. you just did your PE bit a month or two ago.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:51 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Oh my. Pot meet kettle.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:58 pm
by ousdahl
I like how it went from me talking shit on Perry just now after the fact, to me talking shit on Perry as part of some dated tired shtick now, while I’m sitting here begging to just keep the discussion to the 21-22 lineup.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:59 pm
by Deleted User 89
there’s only one poster on here with a dated, tired schtick

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:04 pm
by PhDhawk
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:49 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:33 pm I know Perry was AA, but he was also notorious for going MIA in the big games - you know, the kinds of games in which he might be matched up against NBA-caliber talent.

If nova was more of an outlier, that woulda been a less difficult pill to swallow, than it was just yet again Perry being Perry.
get some new material.
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Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:13 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:46 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:40 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:35 pm
So, you'd have rather played diallo and lost by 25 instead of 5?
Not really a valid way to think about it, but neither is this:

I would have rather rolled the dice on Cheick producing more than 4 points in 34 minutes like Perry.
You only make that kind of idiotic decision after the fact with results in hand.
Exactly.

This is a bizarre hot take. Especially with the added benefit of seeing how little Diallo has developed in the 5 years since being at KU. He wasn't an extra 100min of game experience away from being an elite college player. He was years away.

...and had he stayed just 1 more year he'd likely have played MAJOR minutes his sophomore year.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:57 pm
by Cascadia
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:21 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:12 am We just have to stop signing these Jamari Traylor, Mitch Lightfoot, Dajuan Harris types that Bill can't help himself around.
Those are the types of players that have made him a great coach.
Maybe the greatest example of “illy will argue just to argue” of all-time.

These are the players that make Self great!

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:13 pm
by Deleted User 863
Cascadia wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:57 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:21 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:12 am We just have to stop signing these Jamari Traylor, Mitch Lightfoot, Dajuan Harris types that Bill can't help himself around.
Those are the types of players that have made him a great coach.
Maybe the greatest example of “illy will argue just to argue” of all-time.

These are the players that make Self great!
Do you think it's more of the Wiggins types that have made Self great or the Frank/Devonte types? Lower ranked guys that stay multiple years and develop into great college players.

Frank and Devonte were ranked closer to a Mitch Lightfoot type HS ranking than an Andrew Wiggins type HS ranking.

Yes, the multi year players who weren't top 30 players are who have made Self great. Frank Devonte TRob Tyshawn Releford Darnell Sasha the list goes on and on...and yup it includes guys like Jamari Traylor and Landen Lucas.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:26 pm
by randylahey
Why does anyone give a single shit about cheick dialog right now

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:44 pm
by Cascadia
Go back to your cave randy