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Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:19 am
by Sparko
Jail time cometh.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:52 am
by ousdahl
twocoach wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:15 am
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:14 am?
Honestly, how has it prevented him from doing anything? Losing his Twitter account helped this more than impeaching him again. For the record, it should have been done but it had nothing to do with preventing him from being able to throw a gas can on the flames.

To this point, the second impeachment has not changed his ability to do anything. He could still hold a press conference today to tell people the exact same thing he told them on the afternoon of Jan 6th.
Yeah, loosing his tweeter apparently made the spread of election misinformation drop by like a bajillion percent.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/16/22234971/ ... ion-zignal

But impeaching him again at least prevents him from running for office again and receiving a gummint stipend, etc.

And it’s sad that this even has to be mentioned, but it’s prob a good thing for lawmakers to take a strong stand against a potus inciting a riot with the intent of overthrowing the results of an election.

It’s for precedent, as sad as that is, although pubs are fixin to play the “this is a waste of time/unconstitutional to try a potus no longer in office/just another political witch hunt/blah blah blah, rather than actually address whether they’re willing to condemn or condone the behavior in the first place: a potus who sicks a violent mob onto the Capitol while senators are counting votes.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:10 am
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:52 am
twocoach wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:15 am
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:14 am?
Honestly, how has it prevented him from doing anything? Losing his Twitter account helped this more than impeaching him again. For the record, it should have been done but it had nothing to do with preventing him from being able to throw a gas can on the flames.

To this point, the second impeachment has not changed his ability to do anything. He could still hold a press conference today to tell people the exact same thing he told them on the afternoon of Jan 6th.
Yeah, loosing his tweeter apparently made the spread of election misinformation drop by like a bajillion percent.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/16/22234971/ ... ion-zignal

But impeaching him again at least prevents him from running for office again and receiving a gummint stipend, etc.

And it’s sad that this even has to be mentioned, but it’s prob a good thing for lawmakers to take a strong stand against a potus inciting a riot with the intent of overthrowing the results of an election.

It’s for precedent, as sad as that is, although pubs are fixin to play the “this is a waste of time/unconstitutional to try a potus no longer in office/just another political witch hunt/blah blah blah, rather than actually address whether they’re willing to condemn or condone the behavior in the first place: a potus who sicks a violent mob onto the Capitol while senators are counting votes.
Impeaching him doesn't " prevent him from running for office again and receiving a gummint stipend", convicting him does. And I doubt the Senate has enough votes to convict him. Again.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:26 am
by ousdahl
Yeah, it’s the conviction.

But I think the impeachment was for precedent. Even if they don’t convict, get on the record as to who wants to condemn that shit, and who still wants to March with Trump.

The biggest difference this time around may be that Mitch is fed up too, but who knows which way he’ll ultimately slither.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:38 am
by Deleted User 89
twocoach wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:10 am
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:52 am
twocoach wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:15 am

Honestly, how has it prevented him from doing anything? Losing his Twitter account helped this more than impeaching him again. For the record, it should have been done but it had nothing to do with preventing him from being able to throw a gas can on the flames.

To this point, the second impeachment has not changed his ability to do anything. He could still hold a press conference today to tell people the exact same thing he told them on the afternoon of Jan 6th.
Yeah, loosing his tweeter apparently made the spread of election misinformation drop by like a bajillion percent.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/16/22234971/ ... ion-zignal

But impeaching him again at least prevents him from running for office again and receiving a gummint stipend, etc.

And it’s sad that this even has to be mentioned, but it’s prob a good thing for lawmakers to take a strong stand against a potus inciting a riot with the intent of overthrowing the results of an election.

It’s for precedent, as sad as that is, although pubs are fixin to play the “this is a waste of time/unconstitutional to try a potus no longer in office/just another political witch hunt/blah blah blah, rather than actually address whether they’re willing to condemn or condone the behavior in the first place: a potus who sicks a violent mob onto the Capitol while senators are counting votes.
Impeaching him doesn't " prevent him from running for office again and receiving a gummint stipend", convicting him does. And I doubt the Senate has enough votes to convict him. Again.
he can be prevented from holding public office again by a simple majority

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:24 am
by twocoach
TraditionKU wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:38 am
twocoach wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:10 am
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:52 am

Yeah, loosing his tweeter apparently made the spread of election misinformation drop by like a bajillion percent.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/16/22234971/ ... ion-zignal

But impeaching him again at least prevents him from running for office again and receiving a gummint stipend, etc.

And it’s sad that this even has to be mentioned, but it’s prob a good thing for lawmakers to take a strong stand against a potus inciting a riot with the intent of overthrowing the results of an election.

It’s for precedent, as sad as that is, although pubs are fixin to play the “this is a waste of time/unconstitutional to try a potus no longer in office/just another political witch hunt/blah blah blah, rather than actually address whether they’re willing to condemn or condone the behavior in the first place: a potus who sicks a violent mob onto the Capitol while senators are counting votes.
Impeaching him doesn't " prevent him from running for office again and receiving a gummint stipend", convicting him does. And I doubt the Senate has enough votes to convict him. Again.
he can be prevented from holding public office again by a simple majority
Is anything simple in Congress any more?

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:48 pm
by Deleted User 89
https://www.newsweek.com/new-threats-vi ... nt-1564084

exactly why impeachment must happen

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:42 pm
by Sparko
He would do well to shrink from sight. Never vexing us again.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:50 pm
by sdoyel

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:38 am
by jhawks99
That's pretty convenient.
Perps say they were following trump.
trump says he's not responsible for anyone following anything he says.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:54 am
by jfish26
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:26 am Yeah, it’s the conviction.

But I think the impeachment was for precedent. Even if they don’t convict, get on the record as to who wants to condemn that shit, and who still wants to March with Trump.

The biggest difference this time around may be that Mitch is fed up too, but who knows which way he’ll ultimately slither.
It’s wild to me that there are purportedly serious people who advance, in an apparently-serious way, the argument that in the case of a president who cheats, we can only punish him if he wins.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:32 am
by Deleted User 89
similar to advancing the notion that it’s too late

does that mean nothing that a president does in the last couple weeks can be investigated?

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:35 pm
by Sparko
TraditionKU wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:32 am similar to advancing the notion that it’s too late

does that mean nothing that a president does in the last couple weeks can be investigated?
Worse, Mitch refused to hold the trial while the dangerous kook was still in office.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:44 pm
by ousdahl

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:49 pm
by Sparko
GOP is a giant Ponzi scheme any more. "How dare you you call out sedition and treason!" They sink lower and lower in the toilet as it swirls.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:59 am
by Deleted User 89

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:41 am
by ousdahl
I heard this morning Trump has until noon eastern time to file a formal response to the impeachment charges.

Will he? Might be difficult considering his entire legal team quit.

But it really does sound like his number one defense is gonna be, “but the election was stolen from me”

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:11 am
by Deleted User 62
ousdahl wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:41 am I heard this morning Trump has until noon eastern time to file a formal response to the impeachment charges.

Will he? Might be difficult considering his entire legal team quit.

But it really does sound like his number one defense is gonna be, “but the election was stolen from me”
And with the 2021 GOP, probably all that his defense needs to be.

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:20 am
by ousdahl
I mean, in 4 years of bullshit, the one time Mitch McConnell actually spoke up about it, has been regarding the particular bullshit Trump has peddled about a stolen election.

So who knows!

Re: Where TF is the Impeachment Inquiry Thread?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:31 am
by Deleted User 89