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You have to seriously ask yourself if you believe the numbers being reported. They do not make a distinction between "Died FROM COVID-19" and "Died WITH COVID-19". If it is truly only deadly in ~1% of cases, reports coming out of NYC, among others, would indicate that the mortality rates are grossly overblown.
You're right in that the reported numbers aren't giving an accurate picture. But, it ain't the death numbers.HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:53 amYou have to seriously ask yourself if you believe the numbers being reported. They do not make a distinction between "Died FROM COVID-19" and "Died WITH COVID-19". If it is truly only deadly in ~1% of cases, reports coming out of NYC, among others, would indicate that the mortality rates are grossly overblown.
Just adopt our Governor as your own. You'll have a fighting chance. Gavin has always had vision starting from his days as the Mayor of SF taking on the same-sex marriage fight. We are indeed "exporting" ventilators!jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:12 am Like, what in the FUCK is this headline trying to do:
When will the coronavirus curve flatten in the KC area? So far, numbers keep growing
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/a ... gnews_main
We're not even in the fight yet.
I get that the number of people with antibodies is underestimated. Considering that most people are asymptomatic or develop a mild case, I don’t see the problem if high-risk populations are quarantined.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:58 amYou're right in that the reported numbers aren't giving an accurate picture. But, it ain't the death numbers.HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:53 amYou have to seriously ask yourself if you believe the numbers being reported. They do not make a distinction between "Died FROM COVID-19" and "Died WITH COVID-19". If it is truly only deadly in ~1% of cases, reports coming out of NYC, among others, would indicate that the mortality rates are grossly overblown.
But the fact remains that we don't know that until we have an antibody test, which that article has claimed was being used, but that hasn't been distributed, so those 30% - 50% hopeful figures, as far as I can tell, have to be bunk?HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:44 amI get that the number of people with antibodies is underestimated. Considering that most people are asymptomatic or develop a mild case, I don’t see the problem if high-risk populations are quarantined.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:58 amYou're right in that the reported numbers aren't giving an accurate picture. But, it ain't the death numbers.HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:53 am
You have to seriously ask yourself if you believe the numbers being reported. They do not make a distinction between "Died FROM COVID-19" and "Died WITH COVID-19". If it is truly only deadly in ~1% of cases, reports coming out of NYC, among others, would indicate that the mortality rates are grossly overblown.
I don’t know. Valid concern.Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:57 amBut the fact remains that we don't know that until we have an antibody test, which that article has claimed was being used, but that hasn't been distributed, so those 30% - 50% hopeful figures, as far as I can tell, have to be bunk?HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:44 amI get that the number of people with antibodies is underestimated. Considering that most people are asymptomatic or develop a mild case, I don’t see the problem if high-risk populations are quarantined.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:58 am
You're right in that the reported numbers aren't giving an accurate picture. But, it ain't the death numbers.
HmmHouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:59 amIt is becoming increasingly obvious that Dr. Fauci is controlled/paid by people who don't necessarily have the best interests of the people of the United States in mind. He lays out the worst case scenario as fact and then walks it back a few days later with the caveat that it will probably end up being the worst case scenario after all.Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:56 amDidn't Fauci just say yesterday that antibody tests will start to become available soon? As in, they aren't currently.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:42 pm If true, HUGE. (A big IF, of course)
https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/530 ... s-antibody
A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus.
Sumaya Owaynat, a phlebotomy technician, said she tests between 400 and 600 patients on an average day in the parking lot at Roseland Community Hospital. Drive-thru testing is from 9 a.m. to noon and 1 to 4 p.m. each day. However, the hospital has a limited number of tests they can give per day.
Owaynat said the number of patients coming through the testing center who appear to have already had coronavirus and gotten over it is far greater than those who currently have the disease.
Right, as opposed to Donald Trump, a serial liar who acts out his malignant narcissism multiple times a day right before our eyes.HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:59 amIt is becoming increasingly obvious that Dr. Fauci is controlled/paid by people who don't necessarily have the best interests of the people of the United States in mind. He lays out the worst case scenario as fact and then walks it back a few days later with the caveat that it will probably end up being the worst case scenario after all.Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:56 amDidn't Fauci just say yesterday that antibody tests will start to become available soon? As in, they aren't currently.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:42 pm If true, HUGE. (A big IF, of course)
https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/530 ... s-antibody
A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus.
Sumaya Owaynat, a phlebotomy technician, said she tests between 400 and 600 patients on an average day in the parking lot at Roseland Community Hospital. Drive-thru testing is from 9 a.m. to noon and 1 to 4 p.m. each day. However, the hospital has a limited number of tests they can give per day.
Owaynat said the number of patients coming through the testing center who appear to have already had coronavirus and gotten over it is far greater than those who currently have the disease.
I know exactly where this will go, but:zsn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:37 amJust adopt our Governor as your own. You'll have a fighting chance. Gavin has always had vision starting from his days as the Mayor of SF taking on the same-sex marriage fight. We are indeed "exporting" ventilators!jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:12 am Like, what in the FUCK is this headline trying to do:
When will the coronavirus curve flatten in the KC area? So far, numbers keep growing
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/a ... gnews_main
We're not even in the fight yet.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... irus-plans
Or he readjusts his opinion when given new or additional information a few days later.HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:59 amIt is becoming increasingly obvious that Dr. Fauci is controlled/paid by people who don't necessarily have the best interests of the people of the United States in mind. He lays out the worst case scenario as fact and then walks it back a few days later with the caveat that it will probably end up being the worst case scenario after all.Mjl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:56 amDidn't Fauci just say yesterday that antibody tests will start to become available soon? As in, they aren't currently.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:42 pm If true, HUGE. (A big IF, of course)
https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/530 ... s-antibody
A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus.
Sumaya Owaynat, a phlebotomy technician, said she tests between 400 and 600 patients on an average day in the parking lot at Roseland Community Hospital. Drive-thru testing is from 9 a.m. to noon and 1 to 4 p.m. each day. However, the hospital has a limited number of tests they can give per day.
Owaynat said the number of patients coming through the testing center who appear to have already had coronavirus and gotten over it is far greater than those who currently have the disease.
Which all could have been done more efficiently and more effectively if there was true leadership at the federal level.jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:26 pmI know exactly where this will go, but:zsn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:37 amJust adopt our Governor as your own. You'll have a fighting chance. Gavin has always had vision starting from his days as the Mayor of SF taking on the same-sex marriage fight. We are indeed "exporting" ventilators!jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:12 am Like, what in the FUCK is this headline trying to do:
When will the coronavirus curve flatten in the KC area? So far, numbers keep growing
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/a ... gnews_main
We're not even in the fight yet.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... irus-plans
To the extent we, as a nation, are successful in blunting this disaster, it will be because of efforts and sacrifices at the state, local, business and individual levels.
Probably a very big difference between "reported" cases and actual cases.HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:53 amYou have to seriously ask yourself if you believe the numbers being reported. They do not make a distinction between "Died FROM COVID-19" and "Died WITH COVID-19". If it is truly only deadly in ~1% of cases, reports coming out of NYC, among others, would indicate that the mortality rates are grossly overblown.
Or that the number of cases overall is gross underreported.HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:53 amYou have to seriously ask yourself if you believe the numbers being reported. They do not make a distinction between "Died FROM COVID-19" and "Died WITH COVID-19". If it is truly only deadly in ~1% of cases, reports coming out of NYC, among others, would indicate that the mortality rates are grossly overblown.
talk on the local news here this morning that today might be SLC’s peak, based on modeling done at U of U.jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:12 am Like, what in the FUCK is this headline trying to do:
When will the coronavirus curve flatten in the KC area? So far, numbers keep growing
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/a ... gnews_main
We're not even in the fight yet.
Those of us in second- and third-tier cities (like KC and SLC) certainly hope that the modeling was flawed in that significant population centers (like ours) started behaving correctly in what amounts to a two- to three-week head start as compared with first-line cities.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:47 pmtalk on the local news here this morning that today might be SLC’s peak, based on modeling done at U of U.jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:12 am Like, what in the FUCK is this headline trying to do:
When will the coronavirus curve flatten in the KC area? So far, numbers keep growing
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/a ... gnews_main
We're not even in the fight yet.
i’m doubtful