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ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:42 am the funny about the Bible is, it's translations of translations of oral traditions after the fact. (ever play the phone game?)

So who knows whether terms like "cousins" translate to biological cousins like we understand it, or whether it was some more generic term like "brother" or "neighbor" or "comrade" or something.

but as least as it pertains to Christianity specifically - it's hardly an extension of the ministry and social movement of Christ aka Jesus of Nazareth; and it is far more so the state-sponsored, state-established, state-imposed, politicizied religion of Constantine.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:42 am the funny about the Bible is, it's translations of translations of oral traditions after the fact.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:49 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:42 am the funny about the Bible is, it's translations of translations of oral traditions after the fact. (ever play the phone game?)

So who knows whether terms like "cousins" translate to biological cousins like we understand it, or whether it was some more generic term like "brother" or "neighbor" or "comrade" or something.

but as least as it pertains to Christianity specifically - it's hardly an extension of the ministry and social movement of Christ aka Jesus of Nazareth; and it is far more so the state-sponsored, state-established, state-imposed, politicizied religion of Constantine.

Here is something to ponder. If we are to believe in Adam and Eve, did they have a daughter that lived to the age of being able to produce a child? Also, if we are to believe in Adam and Eve, then why is incest a sin when without it mankind wouldn't exist? Last question, supposedly Adam lived 930 years. Does anyone actually believe a human lived 930 years?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:08 am In a sense, yea I agree. Pretty much anything attempting to define "God," and all the hierarchies and dogmas that humans have established around such an idea, is still nothing more than that. Just an idea. Just something some human came up with at some point. To insist on some literal definition, which is to say, for a mortal to think they can define the immortal and divine, is just a fool's errand. It's an exercise in arrogance.

And it's a shame that the Bible came to be defined by that shit more than anything else, cuz it still contains a rich moral code, and does offer universal lessons about kindness and humility and generosity just how to not be such shitty human beings. If only Christians cared about biblical values as much as they do about biblical superstition.

What's that you say? Christians DO care about biblical values, just a cherry picked verse taken to some contextual extreme here and there to justify their own bigotry? Yup, what a shame. Cuz for every verse that can be interpreted as "God hates fags," there are hundreds of verses that much more clearly and explicitly condemn evil rich people.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:36 pm No, it is still out there. A lot of people seem to conveniently mistake 'capitalism' with 'communism' apparently.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:28 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:36 pm No, it is still out there. A lot of people seem to conveniently mistake 'capitalism' with 'communism' apparently.

and how much of that convenient mistake can be credited to capitalist propaganda

...but never mind, it's only scary when the Russians do it, right?

my favorite is the ones like "yea I agree that corporate greed should be reigned in and I agree the workers should get more say, but I just gotta draw the line at socialism..."

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:13 am How can anyone with say with a straight face that she not a member of a "cult"?
Is it just me or does it sound like she says Cheesus?