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Walrus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:16 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:15 pm and it significantly decreases the severity and fatality of the virus.

Not necessarily. Many people get more ill after having a flu shot.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:29 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:10 pm Vaccinated people can still spread the virus.

That's not known yet, but will be soon.

It seems almost certain that if you are vaccinated you'd harbor a lower viral load and for a shorter period of time. It's entirely possible the virus is unable to replicate to numbers that would make infecting another person highly unlikely. It almost definitely will reduce the infectivity if viral titers are lower and more brief than in unvaccinated individuals.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:34 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:29 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:10 pm Vaccinated people can still spread the virus.

That's not known yet, but will be soon.

It seems almost certain that if you are vaccinated you'd harbor a lower viral load and for a shorter period of time. It's entirely possible the virus is unable to replicate to numbers that would make infecting another person highly unlikely. It almost definitely will reduce the infectivity if viral titers are lower and more brief than in unvaccinated individuals.

I thought I read that there was very positive signs in that regard with the A-Z vax.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:36 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:34 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:29 pm

That's not known yet, but will be soon.

It seems almost certain that if you are vaccinated you'd harbor a lower viral load and for a shorter period of time. It's entirely possible the virus is unable to replicate to numbers that would make infecting another person highly unlikely. It almost definitely will reduce the infectivity if viral titers are lower and more brief than in unvaccinated individuals.

I thought I read that there was very positive signs in that regard with the A-Z vax.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/03/health/a ... index.html

Hasn't been peer reviewed, but yes.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:33 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:16 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:15 pm and it significantly decreases the severity and fatality of the virus.

Not necessarily. Many people get more ill after having a flu shot.

More than what?

Statistically in vaccinated individuals who gwt the flu the severity and duration is refuced. Fewer fatalities, fewer trips to ICU, etc.

You're making up lies.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:39 pm My dad has had both shots. 0 side effects. Pfizer.

Mom gets her first today. Not sure which one it is yet.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:20 pm

sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:39 pm My dad has had both shots. 0 side effects. Pfizer.

Mom gets her first today. Not sure which one it is yet.

My mom was given the Moderna. Hopefully she doesn’t have any side effects.

There was good news regarding both Pfizer and Moderna today. Studies showing they are very effective against the variants/mutations.

There is no question that the current vaccines are effective and safe. The risk of severe reaction to a COVID-19 jab, say researchers, is outweighed by the protection it offers against the deadly coronavirus.

Although some have questioned whether the vaccines have led to deaths, none have been directly attributed to a COVID-19 jab

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:06 am "46 RESIDENTS IN SPANISH NURSING HOME DIE AFTER RECEIVING THIS COVID-19 VACCINE"

https://www.breakingchristiannews.com/a ... l?ID=32232

This link is even more scary. 653 cases of names of people who died after taking the vaccine in January.

https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findf ... )&DIED=Yes

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:51 am

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:06 am "46 RESIDENTS IN SPANISH NURSING HOME DIE AFTER RECEIVING THIS COVID-19 VACCINE"

https://www.breakingchristiannews.com/a ... l?ID=32232

This link is even more scary. 653 cases of names of people who died after taking the vaccine in January.

https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findf ... )&DIED=Yes

you should look into your sources a bit better

or, don’t and continue to be gullible

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa ... ion_Center

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:25 pm

sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:00 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:47 pm Pdub, the other issue I have is that some people may just not be able to handle it. It could end up being safe for 96% of people, as I don't know what time will tell us about the safety. Those 4% of people might have serious side effects or even death from taking it. This is why I think keeping it voluntary is so important. Just like how any drug could be lethal for a few people, this isn't any different. I don't like these people like Fauci and Biden telling us "everyone needs to get vaccinated..." No sir, fuck off.

I think the lockdowns are to keep people in check.

Over 50 million people have safely taken the vaccine.

There has also NEVER been a vaccine with long term side effects. Ever.