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Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:41 pm
by TDub
Its all bullshit. The return on investment on this kid at this point is low. This is equivalent of money laundering for pay to play.

And Saban is shouting it across the country as expected.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:43 pm
by Deleted User 863
Sparko wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:19 pm
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:56 am https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... -nil-deals

My interest in "amateur" "college" athletics wanes everytime i read this stuff. Consulted with his agent.......blah.......memorabilia? Kid hasnt played a fucking snap...
What memories, what are we saving of his for its historical importance or value?
Thank goodness a media giant isn't providing Alabama and the SEC with an unfair competitive advantage to the detriment of every other college program. Seriously, though, It does remind me of Zion but over the table cash. I am beginning to think I would rather watch kids playing for pride myself.
Zion wasn't doing commercials.

At least on the surface this stuff is not related closely to the school. Or committing to the school. Zion was requesting things to commit. I don't like that type of stuff.

It isn't the local car dealership handing over 6 figures like some feared. It is national companies who see value in the players themselves.

Seems more like the local car dealerships (and cookie shops) are paying the Mitch Lightfoots to be in their ads more often. Cheaper. Same affect more or less. I am okay with this type of NIL. If it isn't tied to committing to a school then i am good with it.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:45 pm
by Deleted User 863
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:41 pm Its all bullshit. The return on investment on this kid at this point is low. This is equivalent of money laundering for pay to play.

And Saban is shouting it across the country as expected.
What is cash app getting out of it then? The company is an alabama fan?

The trading card companies can't all be owned by Alabama boosters, right?

This doesn't appear to have anything to do with pay to play. He was already there.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:48 pm
by TDub
Head in sand

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:49 pm
by TDub
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:43 pm
Sparko wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:19 pm
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:56 am https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... -nil-deals

My interest in "amateur" "college" athletics wanes everytime i read this stuff. Consulted with his agent.......blah.......memorabilia? Kid hasnt played a fucking snap...
What memories, what are we saving of his for its historical importance or value?
Thank goodness a media giant isn't providing Alabama and the SEC with an unfair competitive advantage to the detriment of every other college program. Seriously, though, It does remind me of Zion but over the table cash. I am beginning to think I would rather watch kids playing for pride myself.
Zion wasn't doing commercials.

At least on the surface this stuff is not related closely to the school. Or committing to the school. Zion was requesting things to commit. I don't like that type of stuff.

It isn't the local car dealership handing over 6 figures like some feared. It is national companies who see value in the players themselves.

Seems more like the local car dealerships (and cookie shops) are paying the Mitch Lightfoots to be in their ads more often. Cheaper. Same affect more or less. I am okay with this type of NIL. If it isn't tied to committing to a school then i am good with it.
Value in the player.....a $1mil. In a player that hasnt proved a damn thing. Ok.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:53 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I’m sure Nike regrets inking Lebron in high school before he proved anything.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:54 pm
by Deleted User 863
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:49 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:43 pm
Sparko wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:19 pm
Thank goodness a media giant isn't providing Alabama and the SEC with an unfair competitive advantage to the detriment of every other college program. Seriously, though, It does remind me of Zion but over the table cash. I am beginning to think I would rather watch kids playing for pride myself.
Zion wasn't doing commercials.

At least on the surface this stuff is not related closely to the school. Or committing to the school. Zion was requesting things to commit. I don't like that type of stuff.

It isn't the local car dealership handing over 6 figures like some feared. It is national companies who see value in the players themselves.

Seems more like the local car dealerships (and cookie shops) are paying the Mitch Lightfoots to be in their ads more often. Cheaper. Same affect more or less. I am okay with this type of NIL. If it isn't tied to committing to a school then i am good with it.
Value in the player.....a $1mil. In a player that hasnt proved a damn thing. Ok.
What does he need to prove? They aren't paying him to play football for their company.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:55 pm
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:53 pm I’m sure Nike regrets inking Lebron in high school before he proved anything.
For sure. It's all upside.

If he sucks next year he won't be in any more cash app commercials. They'll move on to the next player that has a HUGE fan base.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:23 pm
by TDub
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:55 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:53 pm I’m sure Nike regrets inking Lebron in high school before he proved anything.
For sure. It's all upside.

If he sucks next year he won't be in any more cash app commercials. They'll move on to the next player that has a HUGE fan base.
Bryce young has a HUGE fanbase? Or alabama has a HUGE fanbase?

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:24 pm
by TDub
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:53 pm I’m sure Nike regrets inking Lebron in high school before he proved anything.
What college did Lebron play for

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:25 pm
by Deleted User 863
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:23 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:55 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:53 pm I’m sure Nike regrets inking Lebron in high school before he proved anything.
For sure. It's all upside.

If he sucks next year he won't be in any more cash app commercials. They'll move on to the next player that has a HUGE fan base.
Bryce young has a HUGE fanbase? Or alabama has a HUGE fanbase?
Both. That's why he's getting paid so much.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:27 pm
by TDub
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:25 pm
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:23 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:55 pm

For sure. It's all upside.

If he sucks next year he won't be in any more cash app commercials. They'll move on to the next player that has a HUGE fan base.
Bryce young has a HUGE fanbase? Or alabama has a HUGE fanbase?
Both. That's why he's getting paid so much.
Had you heard of Bryce Young before he went to Alabama? Would Bryce youngs "fans" be his fans if he was at Wyoming? What percentage of those fans are fans because he wears a script A on his hat

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:40 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:24 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:53 pm I’m sure Nike regrets inking Lebron in high school before he proved anything.
What college did Lebron play for
What are you talking about?

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:03 pm
by TDub
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:40 pm
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:24 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:53 pm I’m sure Nike regrets inking Lebron in high school before he proved anything.
What college did Lebron play for
What are you talking about?
Nikes contract with lebron had nothing to do with college affiliation. Bryce Youngs absolutely does.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:05 pm
by Deleted User 89
do these endorsements have more to do with their school, or them?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/11/us/hanna ... index.html

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:07 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:03 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:40 pm
TDub wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:24 pm

What college did Lebron play for
What are you talking about?
Nikes contract with lebron had nothing to do with college affiliation. Bryce Youngs absolutely does.
I would agree with that, but they’re more similar than different. It’s an investment into “unproven” potential. It happens all the time in a ton of industries.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:10 pm
by PhDhawk
TraditionKU wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:05 pm do these endorsements have more to do with their school, or them?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/11/us/hanna ... index.html
Are they Non-Traditional students? I didn't watch the video, but in the still shot, they look like 35 year olds trying to look like they're college age?

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:11 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TraditionKU wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:05 pm do these endorsements have more to do with their school, or them?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/11/us/hanna ... index.html
The endorsements will last beyond a few years in school for many. But the school plays a part, no doubt.

Tangentially, it’s never mentioned how much the coaches also benefit from the school affiliation. Probably even more than the players.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:12 pm
by PhDhawk
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:11 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:05 pm do these endorsements have more to do with their school, or them?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/11/us/hanna ... index.html
The endorsements will last beyond a few years in school for many. But the school plays a part, no doubt.

Tangentially, it’s never mentioned how much the coaches also benefit from the school affiliation. Probably even more than the players.
Probably, but there are other reasons why Jay Wright has shampoo commercials and Phil Martelli never did.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:13 pm
by Deleted User 89
when does Self’s shampoo commercial come out?