Kansas Crimson

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:11 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:48 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:20 pm

Yep. And I think we need to be very clear: being a responsible gun owner is not enough.

We have to do more to prevent some people from purchasing legal firearms, especially those that can inflict a large amount of damage in a short period of time. It seems like a lot of these mass shootings are being done with legally purchased firearms. Some of the things being proposed are obviously over the top and would be an infringement on citizen's rights but some of them are common sense moves that would not prevent legal gun owners with no red flags from enjoying their 2nd Amendment freedom of purchasing firearms.

That's all well and good, but there is also no serious argument that the founding fathers would have supported what the second amendment has been used to do.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:44 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:57 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:44 pm

same in Oregon, but yesterday..across the entire State.

Turns out every single one of them was a "swatting" attempt and faked. Every single one. Ridiculous

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:41 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 12:05 pm I don't post here often but a lot more than just background checks need to happen.

Background checks mandatory, with a week or two waiting period, paid for with a tax on said gun.

Production of newer guns should halt. Any new gun should have zero semi auto/auto capabilities.
Bolt action. Double barrel or break action. Pump. That's it.
Newer guns should be built to prevent modifications - i.e. break the gun.
Max capacities of these guns should be 4 or 5.
No magazines or clips. You have to individually load each round.

Human beings hunted successfully with bows, spears, boomerangs, bolos.
You can manage with 4 shots from a rifle or shotgun.
I'd say the same thing for self defense - if you don't hit with your first one or two shots, you're probably in trouble anyways.

Buy back programs for guns that exist should be promoted. Give a reasonable x amount of years you have to return any gun that is deemed, on the list, as not one of the grandfathered in guns ( that are close to the gun modifications listed above ). After that time period, any gun not on the list is illegal, with seizure, fines and jail time depending on offense. Any modifications to a gun would face similar penalties.

No silly gun shows. Gun shops would have to be similar to ABC, a controlled centralized business with unified standards and practices.

If you reallly want to fire those more high powered weapons, there can be places you can fire them, renting them, on the premises, like a shooting range.

Either the drinking age should go down to 18 or the gun buying age should go up to 21.
( i'd prefer the latter, honestly, i'd prefer the option not listed above, drinking age to 18, gun buying to 21 ).

The 2nd Ammendment was intended for colonies/commonwealths/states that didn't have a standing army yet as a means to protect themselves. It was a new nation. Washington and the Federalists changed that in the mid 1790s when the Army was created to fight the Native Americans. If the States want to create militias, where people volunteer and train and have access to those weapons, much like joining the military but directly just for your state and not Federally bound in anyway, because they think/feel the State could rise against a tyrannical government, i'm in support of those members having access to the weaponry the National Armed Forces have ( though they would never get even close to the capabilities with pin point distance missiles, high speed jets, drones etc ).

Preach Biden.

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:35 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:41 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 12:05 pm I don't post here often but a lot more than just background checks need to happen.

Background checks mandatory, with a week or two waiting period, paid for with a tax on said gun.

Production of newer guns should halt. Any new gun should have zero semi auto/auto capabilities.
Bolt action. Double barrel or break action. Pump. That's it.
Newer guns should be built to prevent modifications - i.e. break the gun.
Max capacities of these guns should be 4 or 5.
No magazines or clips. You have to individually load each round.

Human beings hunted successfully with bows, spears, boomerangs, bolos.
You can manage with 4 shots from a rifle or shotgun.
I'd say the same thing for self defense - if you don't hit with your first one or two shots, you're probably in trouble anyways.

Buy back programs for guns that exist should be promoted. Give a reasonable x amount of years you have to return any gun that is deemed, on the list, as not one of the grandfathered in guns ( that are close to the gun modifications listed above ). After that time period, any gun not on the list is illegal, with seizure, fines and jail time depending on offense. Any modifications to a gun would face similar penalties.

No silly gun shows. Gun shops would have to be similar to ABC, a controlled centralized business with unified standards and practices.

If you reallly want to fire those more high powered weapons, there can be places you can fire them, renting them, on the premises, like a shooting range.

Either the drinking age should go down to 18 or the gun buying age should go up to 21.
( i'd prefer the latter, honestly, i'd prefer the option not listed above, drinking age to 18, gun buying to 21 ).

The 2nd Ammendment was intended for colonies/commonwealths/states that didn't have a standing army yet as a means to protect themselves. It was a new nation. Washington and the Federalists changed that in the mid 1790s when the Army was created to fight the Native Americans. If the States want to create militias, where people volunteer and train and have access to those weapons, much like joining the military but directly just for your state and not Federally bound in anyway, because they think/feel the State could rise against a tyrannical government, i'm in support of those members having access to the weaponry the National Armed Forces have ( though they would never get even close to the capabilities with pin point distance missiles, high speed jets, drones etc ).

Preach Biden.

Hey this is still valid.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:23 pm 83rd school shooting this year

no words…

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:23 pm 83rd school shooting this year

no words…