Kansas Crimson

Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:33 am Based on what we had, and happened through course of year, nah.

In a historical vacuum, sure.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:04 am some self induced problems

ramjet wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:13 am good god, what a bunch of entitled spoiled elite assholes

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:40 am Since Vick left the team, we have played away from home against teams seeded 3, 5, 6 and 9 in the tourney and lost to all of them by double digits. Northeastern was our only win vs a tourney team away from AFH without Vick and Dok.

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:57 am I sometimes wonder what this staff was thinking during parts of this year. I really hope this year was a wake up call for everyone in that office.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:52 am Am I wrong to think that a single title over that stretch is perhaps not sufficient to justify such waning?

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:52 am Am I wrong to think that a single title over that stretch is perhaps not sufficient to justify such waning?

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:52 am Am I wrong to think that a single title over that stretch is perhaps not sufficient to justify such waning?

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:09 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:52 am Am I wrong to think that a single title over that stretch is perhaps not sufficient to justify such waning?

yes and no...guess it depends on just how much weight is put on the tourney as the measuring stick for success

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:59 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:52 am Am I wrong to think that a single title over that stretch is perhaps not sufficient to justify such waning?

I’ve said that same thing since KU last won in 08. Great. KU won 14 in a row but during that time frame they won exactly ONE Natty. Now it depends on which you value more. Some of those years winning the regular season was the ‘national championship’ but other years with the expectations heading into the tournament certain seasons were complete failures. Consistency of 14 years straight or the dumb luck sometimes that you need to win in March. Which do you value more. Not sure if there is a straight answer for that.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:32 pm

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:59 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:52 am Am I wrong to think that a single title over that stretch is perhaps not sufficient to justify such waning?

I’ve said that same thing since KU last won in 08. Great. KU won 14 in a row but during that time frame they won exactly ONE Natty. Now it depends on which you value more. Some of those years winning the regular season was the ‘national championship’ but other years with the expectations heading into the tournament certain seasons were complete failures. Consistency of 14 years straight or the dumb luck sometimes that you need to win in March. Which do you value more. Not sure if there is a straight answer for that.

I think the frustrating part is that, based on just the one title, the perception of our success over the last couple decades (going back into the Roy era) is not in line with reality.

Put differently - there's a compelling argument that KU has been the best college basketball program in the country for the last...three decades? Three and a half?

But you won't hear casual fans name KU as such.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:34 pm
Last sentence nailed it. Many casual fans think Kansas is good but not great because of tournament success or whatnot. Those same fans will look at titles and think UConn is a more successful program because they’ve won 3 titles in 20 years.