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I wasn't trying to say Gonzaga can't play defense. They are a very good defensive team. I'm just saying that if you ask any analyst/coach/scout they will be more worried about Gonzaga's offensive power over their defense, and vice versa for Baylor. That doesn't mean Gonzaga sucks at defense and Baylor sucks at offense.

Just my personal opinion, in a "must have" possession, I'd feel more confident in Baylor getting a stop than Gonzaga getting a bucket.

Also, some things to consider in the adjD category, the WCC has 8 teams lower than 90 in the adjO where the Big 12 has 7 teams in the top 63. And yes, I understand the adj stands for adjusted, lol.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:29 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:09 am Gonzaga would put a clown suit on Drew.

was just gonna say, i’d take Few over Drew any day

Both very overrated.

Interesting. Gasaway at ESPN has done this for past 3 years or so and one of the 8 teams he has picked has won it every year he's done it.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ch-madness

Kansas in the near miss category.

Gonzaga, Baylor, Michigan, Alabama, Houston, Illinois, Iowa and Colorado!?!?!? are the 8 teams he picks this year.

So 7 of the top 8 of kenpom and Colorado.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:35 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:29 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:09 am Gonzaga would put a clown suit on Drew.

was just gonna say, i’d take Few over Drew any day

Both very overrated.

absolutely agree

I don't think Scott Drew is very 'rated' so I don't know why he'd be overrated -- though I think Bill Self deserved to win B12 COY last season.

Few is one of the top 10 coaches in college basketball, leading one of the top 10 programs in the last 10 years - I think he's rated appropriately.

"overrated" is the go to if a coach they do not like has a good year. Then they are "overrated."

there’s a reason why Few is still coaching where he is

it’s relatively easy being a big fish in a little pond

Yes, there is a reason.
Because he's built a great program there and is loyal to the school.
He also loves the Pacific Northwest.

meh...he seems very greg marshal to me (not personality wise)

If you're Mark Few, right now, what job(s) would you leave Gonzaga for?

"overrated" is the go to if a coach they do not like has a better year than HCBS. Then they are "overrated."

i actually like Few, and think he’s a decent guy...i just don’t think he’s on the same level as Self as far as coaching prowess is concerned

I don't either.
But Bill Self is locked in as a top 5 coach.
Few isn't there yet.

If the argument is Few is a better coach than Self, then no, that's wrong.
I guess it depends on where he's rated - I'd put Bill Self, Izzo, Roi, Coach K, Jay Wright in that top 5, in various orders.

Few is in that Tony Bennett, John Calipari, Jim Boeheim, Chris Beard group below them.

Yeah I wonder how Few would do in a bigger conference and market.

Isn’t zags one of those those schools that tends to underperform relative to seeding?

How many other coaches could look really good playing a bunch of Catholic and Mormon schools with a 10pm est tip?

They always play a killer non-conference schedule and do well.

Obviously his winning % and conference titles are inflated by being in a weaker conference.

But I think people account for that...most of the time.

Few seems appropriately rated to me.

You have to give Drew credit for his turning the Baylor program around, that was basically the equivalent of KU football and he's made them nationally relevant.

I think his flaws are pretty evident and most are aware of them.

He's probably appropriately rated, if as pdub alluded to, he's rated at all.

As bad as KU football is... none of our players has killed another only to have the coach throw the victim under the bus to cover for the drug dealing murderer. But other than that, I agree with you.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:05 pm As bad as KU football is... none of our players has killed another only to have the coach throw the victim under the bus to cover for the drug dealing murderer. But other than that, I agree with you.

How many levels are between that and molesting coeds?

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:07 pm If you're Mark Few, right now, what job(s) would you leave Gonzaga for?

Better question for here...If Bill Self was fired tomorrow would people be happy or bummed if they hired Mark Few to replace him?

I would be thrilled. People just knock him over some ncaa tourney early exits. They do the same to Bill Self except for the one year we had 6 NBA guys on our roster plus 2 more really, really good overseas players.

Teams and coaches who fuck up people's ncaa tourney office pool brackets more than once are viewed in an irrational light in my opinion.

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:28 pm

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:07 pm If you're Mark Few, right now, what job(s) would you leave Gonzaga for?

Better question for here...If Bill Self was fired tomorrow would people be happy or bummed if they hired Mark Few to replace him?

I would be thrilled. People just knock him over some ncaa tourney early exits. They do the same to Bill Self except for the one year we had 6 NBA guys on our roster plus 2 more really, really good overseas players.

Teams and coaches who fuck up people's ncaa tourney office pool brackets more than once are viewed in an irrational light in my opinion.

Or getting bounced by Bucknell and Bradley in back to back year. 20 years ago. Could have won 5 titles since then and it would still be "Kansas always chokes".