Kansas Crimson

No bro, socialism is power to the workers and everyone deserves it ALL.
No more risk vs reward decisions...its all gravy on UT island bro.
How can you not see that?

Actually, it’s ousdahl busting his ass while the owner golfs, but we’ve seen time and again that the job creators play by their own rules.

But go figure, the only time phd wants to tell a job creator they can’t play by their own rules is when he thinks the guy is paying his employees too much.

You fit right in with the modern gop and their new mantra of businesses can’t do whatever they want any more. And to think for a moment there I thought you had come over to the radical socialist dark side...bummer!

TDub wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:20 pm No bro, socialism is power to the workers and everyone deserves it ALL.
No more risk vs reward decisions...its all gravy on UT island bro.
How can you not see that?

Wut?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:22 pm Actually, it’s ousdahl busting his ass while the owner golfs, but we’ve seen time and again that the job creators play by their own rules.

But go figure, the only time phd wants to tell a job creator they can’t play by their own rules is when he thinks the guy is paying his employees too much.

You fit right in with the modern gop and their new mantra of businesses can’t do whatever they want any more. And to think for a moment there I thought you had come over to the radical socialist dark side...bummer!

No, I'm telling you how I'd run my business. Price can do whatever he wants and I respect him for sticking to his principles.

Like you, when I find out something like the guy who invented the big mac never got a share of the sales, or even a raise, I find it appalling.

Your solution though, is that every McD's employee shares equally in the proceeds.

Mine is that you reward the inventor specifically for his efforts, and give him some type of equitable share in the profits. You don't just give everyone who put on a visor and polo shirt an equal share in the product invented by one person.

Is that my solution?

It’s wild how difficult it is to discuss this stuff without everyone else putting words in my mouth.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:30 pm Is that my solution?

It’s wild how difficult it is to discuss this stuff without everyone else putting words in my mouth.

I mean, your last post put a lot of words in my mouth.

Maybe you should treat others how you'd like to be treated.

I know you are but wut am I?

For real tho, sorry if you felt that way. That’s not my intent, and I prob could have phrased my post better. I was just commenting on how you reacted to a successful idiot businessman who pays his employees more, by suggesting he should pay them less.

But, the whole thing about how my solution is that every McDonald’s employee shares equally in the proceeds seems like the typical anti-anti-capitalist hyperbole, and is not even close to anything I’ve said.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:36 pm I know you are but wut am I?

For real tho, sorry if you felt that way. That’s not my intent, and I prob could have phrased my post better. I was just commenting on how you reacted to a successful idiot businessman who pays his employees more, by suggesting he should pay them less.

But, the whole thing about how my solution is that every McDonald’s employee shares equally in the proceeds seems like the typical anti-anti-capitalist hyperbole, and is not even close to anything I’ve said.

Yeah, but you didn't really read my post, then did you? Because I also said, he's probably UNDERpaying some of them. The top performing employees should make MORE than 70k.

And it is what you've said. You like that Price pays everyone the same wage. You'd probably love tip sharing rather than have the top servers earn more than the underperforming ones.

If I'm putting words in your mouth I'm sorry, but based on your posts, it's clear to me that I value incentive more than you do.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:23 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:20 pm No bro, socialism is power to the workers and everyone deserves it ALL.
No more risk vs reward decisions...its all gravy on UT island bro.
How can you not see that?

Wut?

The same shit youve been spewing for like 12 months on repeat? Dont recognize it?

Ok fair enough. (No pun intended). Your position is that salaries should reflect performance as precisely as possible.

But yeah, then you double down on words in my mouth. Where did I say that I like how Price pays everyone the same wage?

This, again, seems like the hyperbole that anyone who sees merit in “socialist” theories must automatically think everyone should be paid the same.

And where have I said anything about tip sharing?

But yeah, I can get down on valuing incentive.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:50 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:23 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:20 pm No bro, socialism is power to the workers and everyone deserves it ALL.
No more risk vs reward decisions...its all gravy on UT island bro.
How can you not see that?

Wut?

The same shit youve been spewing for like 12 months on repeat? Dont recognize it?

Re-read your post.

If you don’t think you’re putting words in my mouth, then please find where I said everyone deserves it all.

It’s sad that you don’t even make an attempt to engage in dialogue without knee jerking the same old hyperbole.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:56 pm Ok fair enough. (No pun intended). Your position is that salaries should reflect performance as precisely as possible.

But yeah, then you double down on words in my mouth. Where did I say that I like how Price pays everyone the same wage?

This, again, seems like the hyperbole that anyone who sees merit in “socialist” theories must automatically think everyone should be paid the same.

And where have I said anything about tip sharing?

But yeah, I can get down on valuing incentive.

Where did i say anything about government controlling wages or that price couldn't determine the wages he pays?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:57 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:50 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:23 pm

Wut?

The same shit youve been spewing for like 12 months on repeat? Dont recognize it?

Re-read your post.

If you don’t think you’re putting words in my mouth, then please find where I said everyone deserves it all.

It’s sad that you don’t even make an attempt to engage in dialogue without knee jerking the same old hyperbole.

Every single post

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:22 pm Actually, it’s ousdahl busting his ass while the owner golfs, but we’ve seen time and again that the job creators play by their own rules.

But go figure, the only time phd wants to tell a job creator they can’t play by their own rules is when he thinks the guy is paying his employees too much.

You fit right in with the modern gop and their new mantra of businesses can’t do whatever they want any more. And to think for a moment there I thought you had come over to the radical socialist dark side...bummer!

My guess is that the owner put up the original capital to start the business and probably went through years where he busted his hump and lost money. It's his business and he gets to run it the way he sees fit now.

The great thing about America is that, if you feel like you are being treated unfairly, you are free to go start your own business and do what you want, too. Just don't expect the rest of us to subsidize your lifestyle if you choose to sit on the couch smoking weed and playing XBox instead of working.

Sheesh.

While I think it could be worth continuing the discussion, I also think we could all use a break. It’s Friday. Let’s chill out.

Howsabout a good boi post!

Tdub, if you can get past the account name, I think you in particular will enjoy this one:

This thread should be titled "How much more will everything cost in 2022?"

this whole board should be entitled: how many lies can lobs post

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 2:49 pm

Serious question: How does giving poor people money incentivize them to do anything other than do nothing?

and by that same logic, if we keep giving rich people money, what if they stop working and just play Xbox with mich all day?