Kansas Crimson

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am**

Well it doesn't help when you have a president saying things in press conferences that is contradictory to what the intelligence community and journalists/people on the ground are saying.

It's no wonder these members of congress from BOTH parties felt it was worth risking their lives to go over there to try to figure out what the hell is really going on so that they and the rest of congress can help.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:55 am**

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:58 am
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:53 am anyone else think that the two congressman going to Kabul right now was a bad idea?

seems to me the resources used to support their trip would’ve been better served had they been directed elsewhere

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:33 am all he wants is the opportunity to gloat and point fingers

there is zero interest in actually having a meaningful conversation about the situation
LOL really can't make this stuff up.

Not surprising out of ALL of the shit going on, you're mad that 2 people went to help.

GO TEAM!

It wasn't helpful to anything when AOC performed her shtick at the US-Mexico border when Trump was Prez and I dont see this visit being "helpful" either but if they get back OK and do something more than grandstand about what they saw for their own political gain then the hassle of getting them there and back safely will have been worth it.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:47 pm**

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am Well it doesn't help when you have a president saying things in press conferences that is contradictory to what the intelligence community and journalists/people on the ground are saying.

It's no wonder these members of congress from BOTH parties felt it was worth risking their lives to go over there to try to figure out what the hell is really going on so that they and the rest of congress can help.

If you were trying any harder you'd have a stroke.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:47 pm**

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am Well it doesn't help when you have a president saying things in press conferences that is contradictory to what the intelligence community and journalists/people on the ground are saying.

It's no wonder these members of congress from BOTH parties felt it was worth risking their lives to go over there to try to figure out what the hell is really going on so that they and the rest of congress can help.

Two members of the House making a secret trip to Afghanistan doesn't help anything. They did not get the required approvals to make such a trip and did not notify the proper parties that it was happening. It was irresponsible and unnecessary.

We'll see if it results in "so that they and the rest of congress can help". I doubt it.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:56 pm**

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:47 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am Well it doesn't help when you have a president saying things in press conferences that is contradictory to what the intelligence community and journalists/people on the ground are saying.

It's no wonder these members of congress from BOTH parties felt it was worth risking their lives to go over there to try to figure out what the hell is really going on so that they and the rest of congress can help.
Two members of the House making a secret trip to Afghanistan doesn't help anything. They did not get the required approvals to make such a trip and did not notify the proper parties that it was happening. It was irresponsible and unnecessary.

We'll see if it results in "so that they and the rest of congress can help". I doubt it.

Pretty telling that they both felt they needed to risk their lives go over there to figure out what was going on...and that they needed to keep it a secret from Pelosi and Biden. The fact it is a republican and a democrat leads me to believe our congressional members are very concerned about the amount of conflicting reports out there about what is actually going on vs what the president says is going on.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:57 pm**

whose approval do these people need before they could travel to the $#!thole? who?

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:01 pm**

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:57 pm whose approval do these people need before they could travel to the $#!thole? who?

Apparently nobody's since they got to somewhere that is nearly impossible to get in or out of at the moment. They certainly didn't just pack up the mini van and drive to the middle east.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:04 pm**

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:48 am He's said inaccurate, inconsistent, and contradictory things to intelligence reports repeatedly.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am Pretty telling that they both felt they needed to risk their lives go over there to figure out what was going on...and that they needed to keep it a secret from Pelosi and Biden. The fact it is a republican and a democrat leads me to believe our congressional members are very concerned about the amount of conflicting reports out there about what is actually going on vs what the president says is going on.

i’m confused...are there conflicting reports or not?

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:05 pm**

the administration is pissed off because they don't want anybody to know what is really going on.

they are military vets. these two are true patriots for taking matters into their own hands.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:10 pm**

lol...anyone paying attention knows what is going on

nobody is denying the catastrophic events that have unfolded

don’t let that stop you though

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:14 pm**

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:56 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:47 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am Well it doesn't help when you have a president saying things in press conferences that is contradictory to what the intelligence community and journalists/people on the ground are saying.

It's no wonder these members of congress from BOTH parties felt it was worth risking their lives to go over there to try to figure out what the hell is really going on so that they and the rest of congress can help.
Two members of the House making a secret trip to Afghanistan doesn't help anything. They did not get the required approvals to make such a trip and did not notify the proper parties that it was happening. It was irresponsible and unnecessary.

We'll see if it results in "so that they and the rest of congress can help". I doubt it.
Pretty telling that they both felt they needed to risk their lives go over there to figure out what was going on...and that they needed to keep it a secret from Pelosi and Biden. The fact it is a republican and a democrat leads me to believe our congressional members are very concerned about the amount of conflicting reports out there about what is actually going on vs what the president says is going on.

Everything you just said was an assumption based on your own opinions.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:14 pm**

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:05 pm the administration is pissed off because they don't want anybody to know what is really going on.

they are military vets. these two are true patriots for taking matters into their own hands.

Eh, what is going on is being shown on live TV. There aren't any questions as to what is happening.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:16 pm**

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:04 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:48 am He's said inaccurate, inconsistent, and contradictory things to intelligence reports repeatedly.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am Pretty telling that they both felt they needed to risk their lives go over there to figure out what was going on...and that they needed to keep it a secret from Pelosi and Biden. The fact it is a republican and a democrat leads me to believe our congressional members are very concerned about the amount of conflicting reports out there about what is actually going on vs what the president says is going on.
i’m confused...are there conflicting reports or not?

When all else fails and you can't defend dear leader, it is always a pro move to argue about important things like wording and sentence structure.

Thank god you don't hold uncle joe to such a high standard. Otherwise his press conferences would drive you nuts.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:18 pm**

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:14 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:05 pm the administration is pissed off because they don't want anybody to know what is really going on.

they are military vets. these two are true patriots for taking matters into their own hands.
Eh, what is going on is being shown on live TV. There aren't any questions as to what is happening.

Biden said the Taliban were letting people get to the airport. Reporters and sources on the ground say that's not the case. Instead they were beating people in the streets and going door to door making lists so they can come back and kill whoever we leave behind.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:21 pm**

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:14 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:56 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:47 pm
Two members of the House making a secret trip to Afghanistan doesn't help anything. They did not get the required approvals to make such a trip and did not notify the proper parties that it was happening. It was irresponsible and unnecessary.

We'll see if it results in "so that they and the rest of congress can help". I doubt it.
Pretty telling that they both felt they needed to risk their lives go over there to figure out what was going on...and that they needed to keep it a secret from Pelosi and Biden. The fact it is a republican and a democrat leads me to believe our congressional members are very concerned about the amount of conflicting reports out there about what is actually going on vs what the president says is going on.
Everything you just said was an assumption based on your own opinions.

Mind blown.

That's actually EXACTLY what you did in your post above claiming that them going there will do nothing, and that it was unnecessary, and that it was irresponsible.

Totally oblivious.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:23 pm**

Given the circumstances hasn’t this actually been pretty tame? It’s not like we have a firefight on the streets or am I missing something? Sure, it’s a mess of an ordeal but most people seem to be getting out safely.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:25 pm**

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:16 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:04 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:48 am He's said inaccurate, inconsistent, and contradictory things to intelligence reports repeatedly.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:48 am Pretty telling that they both felt they needed to risk their lives go over there to figure out what was going on...and that they needed to keep it a secret from Pelosi and Biden. The fact it is a republican and a democrat leads me to believe our congressional members are very concerned about the amount of conflicting reports out there about what is actually going on vs what the president says is going on.
i’m confused...are there conflicting reports or not?
When all else fails and you can't defend dear leader, it is always a pro move to argue about important things like wording and sentence structure.

Thank god you don't hold uncle joe to such a high standard. Otherwise his press conferences would drive you nuts.

when you can’t even defend your own statements, you’ve got a problem

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:31 pm**

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:21 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:14 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:56 pm

Pretty telling that they both felt they needed to risk their lives go over there to figure out what was going on...and that they needed to keep it a secret from Pelosi and Biden. The fact it is a republican and a democrat leads me to believe our congressional members are very concerned about the amount of conflicting reports out there about what is actually going on vs what the president says is going on.
Everything you just said was an assumption based on your own opinions.
Mind blown.

That's actually EXACTLY what you did in your post above claiming that them going there will do nothing, and that it was unnecessary, and that it was irresponsible.

Totally oblivious.

The White House has said it was irresponsible. The Speaker of the House said the same. The State Department said the same. The Defense Department said the same. Both the State Department and the Defense Department had issued statements asking members to not to go over there. I feel pretty confident that I am not stating that due simply to my own preconceived ideas.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:33 pm**

sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:23 pm Given the circumstances hasn’t this actually been pretty tame? It’s not like we have a firefight on the streets or am I missing something? Sure, it’s a mess of an ordeal but most people seem to be getting out safely.

The same people who think that 600,000 people dying from covid isn't a big deal also seem to feel that a handful of Afghani citizens dying because they helped us out over the course of the last 20 years should lead to our President being impeached or removed from office via the 25th Amendment.

And Illy is just wandering around looking for an opportunity to score a zinger on someone because that makes him feel good about himself.

Posted: **Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:37 pm**

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:33 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:23 pm Given the circumstances hasn’t this actually been pretty tame? It’s not like we have a firefight on the streets or am I missing something? Sure, it’s a mess of an ordeal but most people seem to be getting out safely.
The same people who think that 600,000 people dying from covid isn't a big deal also seem to feel that a handful of Afghani citizens dying because they helped us out over the course of the last 20 years should lead to our President being impeached or removed from office via the 25th Amendment.

And Illy is just wandering around looking for an opportunity to score a zinger on someone because that makes him feel good about himself.

Holy fuck.

A handful?

No big deal. Only a handful?

Willful ignorance.

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