Kansas Crimson

Psych and Randy are filled with so much hate. I would hope that they can get past the traumatic experiences of their youth but hate is a comfortable niche--no commitment to empathy or compassion--and a lot easier than making oneself vulnerable to the truth.

defixione wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:13 am Psych and Randy are filled with so much hate. I would hope that they can get past the traumatic experiences of their youth but hate is a comfortable niche--no commitment to empathy or compassion--and a lot easier than making oneself vulnerable to the truth.

I don't hate anybody. I'm also dubious that one could make that kind of deep-level assessment of another human being based on a few posts made on a message bored. If that were the case, there are a lot of people here - yourself included - who have demonstrated that they are hate-filled by the insults and name-calling they engage in on a daily basis.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:40 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:28 am

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:25 am

No propaganda there. Sorry if you don't believe it. Not sure what previous administrations had to do with trump locking little kids up in dog kennels. Sounds like deflection and had no reference to anything I said.

Did trump personally lock a kid up in a dog kennel?

You do realize that when children snuck over as illegal immigrants and were held in custody, it was done so under immigration policies established in the 90s under Bill Clinton? And the same things happened under Obama and Bush too

It's/was not the "same things".
Regardless, many/most/all "things" sucked.
Sorry, Trump doesn't get a free pass because people/someone did the wrong "things" in the past too.

Why does he alone get the blame for it though? When just maintaining what happened under Clinton, Bush, and Obama

Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration. Which would have stopped the issue at the root.

Instead of incentivizing illegal immigration, as the left does now

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:35 am

defixione wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:13 am Psych and Randy are filled with so much hate. I would hope that they can get past the traumatic experiences of their youth but hate is a comfortable niche--no commitment to empathy or compassion--and a lot easier than making oneself vulnerable to the truth.

I don't hate anybody. I'm also dubious that one could make that kind of deep-level assessment of another human being based on a few posts made on a message bored. If that were the case, there are a lot of people here - yourself included - who have demonstrated that they are hate-filled by the insults and name-calling they engage in on a daily basis.

Yeah, I've made some posts I shouldn't have. You've got 20 years of posts spewing hate. The biggest difference is that I felt bad after I posted mine and you've never shown any indication of that.

a fat mouthing internet jack@$$ is a fat mouthing internet jack@$$. it don’t matter how you vote.

at this particular location, almost all fat mouthing internet jack@$$es identify as democrats. therefore, almost all of the internet jack@$$es are democrats.

it’s a numbers thing.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:41 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:40 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:28 am

Did trump personally lock a kid up in a dog kennel?

You do realize that when children snuck over as illegal immigrants and were held in custody, it was done so under immigration policies established in the 90s under Bill Clinton? And the same things happened under Obama and Bush too

It's/was not the "same things".
Regardless, many/most/all "things" sucked.
Sorry, Trump doesn't get a free pass because people/someone did the wrong "things" in the past too.

Why does he alone get the blame for it though? When just maintaining what happened under Clinton, Bush, and Obama

Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration. Which would have stopped the issue at the root.

Instead of incentivizing illegal immigration, as the left does now

He absolutely did not "just maintain" what happened under previous administrations. That is a bold faced lie. His zero tolerance and family separation policies were drastically different and far more inhumane.

"Which would have stopped the issue at the root" is also fundamentally wrong. Like most of the rest of his policies, the changes that Trump made were temporary in nature and meant to make the numbers look good on his watch while not being sustainable for the future.

Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration.

such as?

defixione wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:46 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:35 am

defixione wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:13 am Psych and Randy are filled with so much hate. I would hope that they can get past the traumatic experiences of their youth but hate is a comfortable niche--no commitment to empathy or compassion--and a lot easier than making oneself vulnerable to the truth.

I don't hate anybody. I'm also dubious that one could make that kind of deep-level assessment of another human being based on a few posts made on a message bored. If that were the case, there are a lot of people here - yourself included - who have demonstrated that they are hate-filled by the insults and name-calling they engage in on a daily basis.

Yeah, I've made some posts I shouldn't have. You've got 20 years of posts spewing hate. The biggest difference is that I felt bad after I posted mine and you've never shown any indication of that.

I beg to differ. I recognized that my posts were hateful and combative years ago, and like you, felt bad about it. I have not engaged in that sort of behavior for quite some time. If you want to judge me based on the person I was 10 years ago, that's fine. I'm just pointing out the facts.

something about tigers and stripes…leopards and spots…

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:08 pm Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration.

such as?

Ending policies that incencivized illegal immigration. Such as guaranteed citizenship to children of illegals born on our soil. Oh and building a fucking wall, which obviously would have been a huge deterrent

you mean this wall?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... -breached/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/re ... eated/amp/

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -smugglers

talk about elaborate…



and birthright citizenship has been a 100-year plus standing interpretation of the 14th Amendment

so, he was all talk and no show…except for changes to LEGAL immigration

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:53 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:08 pm Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration.

such as?

Ending policies that incencivized illegal immigration. Such as guaranteed citizenship to children of illegals born on our soil. Oh and building a fucking wall, which obviously would have been a huge deterrent

VGR!

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:53 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:08 pm Trump had elaborate plans to deincentivise and prevent illegal immigration.

such as?

Ending policies that incencivized illegal immigration. Such as guaranteed citizenship to children of illegals born on our soil. Oh and building a fucking wall, which obviously would have been a huge deterrent

Trump had 4 years to try to end birthright citizenship. So why didn't he try it via Executive Order like he claims he will on Day 1 of his second administration?

Because he has likely been told that it will probably take an Amendment to the Constitution to redefine what makes a US citizen a US citizen and he will never get that to pass.

As for the wall...give me a freaking break with that stupidity. Calling that a huge deterrent is a joke. It was nothing more than a huge waste of time and money.

The wall never happened. There was never federal funding to build a proper uniform wall. Walls work. Vgr gets it

ok, dumdum

that’s a whole lotta wall that “never happened”

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:26 pm

that’s a whole lotta wall that “never happened”

Fragmented peices of a half assed wall. Cool

Then there was also the incidence where Katie Hobbs, newly elected Democrat, made one of her first moves to tear down part of the wall in Arizona

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:32 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:26 pm

that’s a whole lotta wall that “never happened”

Fragmented peices of a half assed wall. Cool

you said it didn’t happen

it very obviously did

it’s not my fault you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:42 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:32 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:26 pm

that’s a whole lotta wall that “never happened”

Fragmented peices of a half assed wall. Cool

you said it didn’t happen

it very obviously did

it’s not my fault you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about

No it didn't. The federal government never approved funding for one big universal wall. Trump's wall never happened

There's just fragmented pieces states/counties have done on their own. They aren't universal. Different designs, different quality sections. Not the wall that was intended. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about