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Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:41 am
by ousdahl

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:46 am
by Deleted User 89
ousdahl wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:41 am
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 265507001/

...“I invite members of the NCAA enforcement staff, it’s Committee on Infractions, and appeals panel involved in our case to meet with my team, to look each of them in their eyes and explain why illicit conduct committed by a rogue assistant coach five years ago – conduct which led to no competitive advantage for our program, and for which the coach was fired immediately upon discovery by our administration – should serve as a basis for denying them the opportunity to experience postseason tournament play. This is the greatest disappointment in my career as a head coach.”

In its statement Wednesday morning, the NCAA said that "the appeals committee determined the infractions panel had not abused its discretion in the determination of the level of this case or in the weighing of the aggravating and mitigating factors, the appealed penalties were upheld."

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:11 pm
by pdub
Oklahoma State could be good enough to get in the tournament too.
Like 8 seed good.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:25 pm
by ousdahl
Bryce against his former team will be a fun matchup.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:28 pm
by twocoach
TraditionKU wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:46 am
ousdahl wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:41 am
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 265507001/

...“I invite members of the NCAA enforcement staff, it’s Committee on Infractions, and appeals panel involved in our case to meet with my team, to look each of them in their eyes and explain why illicit conduct committed by a rogue assistant coach five years ago – conduct which led to no competitive advantage for our program, and for which the coach was fired immediately upon discovery by our administration – should serve as a basis for denying them the opportunity to experience postseason tournament play. This is the greatest disappointment in my career as a head coach.”

In its statement Wednesday morning, the NCAA said that "the appeals committee determined the infractions panel had not abused its discretion in the determination of the level of this case or in the weighing of the aggravating and mitigating factors, the appealed penalties were upheld."
The ncaa is completely broken. This penalty in fundamentally ignorant.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:41 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Mike Boynton went OFF today. Outside of a Self. He’s my favorite guy in CBB.

Another tweet I saw interesting. Michigan State athletics knew about Larry Nassar for 20 years, and still received a lesser penalty than a $300 gift given to a player, who paid the money back and served a suspension.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:41 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Mike Boynton went OFF today. Outside of a Self. He’s my favorite guy in CBB.

Another tweet I saw interesting. Michigan State athletics knew about Larry Nassar for 20 years, and still received a lesser penalty than a $300 gift given to a player, who paid the money back and served a suspension.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:01 pm
by pdub
I mean, the assistant coach was proven guilty of accepting bribe money from financial advisors and managers to influence kids to play for OSU, no?

I think a ban is valid.
But you need to apply similar punishments to all schools, big or small, for violations.
UNC should have been slammed. Duke should have been investigated.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:34 pm
by PhDhawk
Some other type of penalty seems more appropriate though. Fines to the universities, show/cause for the coaches, etc. They're right that the people being punished didn't do anything, the current players, the current coaching staff and the dozens of OSU fans are the only ones hurt, and they didn't do anything.

And I think it was for stearing current players to certain agents/businesses, I don't think it was a method of recruiting.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:35 pm
by Cascadia
Nobody punishes the innocent quite like the NCAA

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:58 pm
by Deleted User 89
“...and the dozens of OSU fans...”

lol

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:55 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Today's news could make KU look really smart in how it handled the NCAA investigation.

Burn it down.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:45 am
by NewtonHawk11
100 percent.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:50 am
by Deleted User 89
...“There’s a huge gap in Division I with schools roughly with $175 million budgets and schools with $4 million budgets,” Lyons said. “A lot of times we’ve tried to legislate from an equality standpoint. Is there possibly a new division? Is there a Division Four? Do some schools break away and make a Division Four, and what is the membership requirements?”

He added: “So those are the things that we’re really going to have to get to the granular spot, and some of those are going to be very difficult conversations to have.”

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:53 am
by NewtonHawk11
Gradually getting closer to a P5 division.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:20 pm
by jfish26
Huh. Whoda thunk it.


Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:41 pm
by holidaysmore
NLI became the kiss of death for all of these 'other' leagues. Hell, I can't even think of any of them.

The exposure you get by going to a P5 school plus NLI is going to far outweigh going to these other alternative leagues.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:49 pm
by jfish26
holidaysmore wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:41 pm NLI became the kiss of death for all of these 'other' leagues. Hell, I can't even think of any of them.

The exposure you get by going to a P5 school plus NLI is going to far outweigh going to these other alternative leagues.
And it was patently obvious. In order to keep not-quite-NBA talent in college basketball...college basketball had to compete with the G League.

Weird how the market - take the G League Ignite salaries, or Billy Preston's alleged take, or known high-end NIL deals, or myriad other things - seems to have found an equilibrium.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:22 am
by jfish26
I was listening to Hawk Tawk on the way home from work last night, and I was sort of puzzled by what Bill said about the team's Thanksgiving plans (they will be in Orlando at a tournament). He said they can't do a team Thanksgiving dinner at the hotel because it's too expensive. Something like $150/head, so the cost in the case of a player whose family travels for the tournament could be several hundred dollars.

I was sort of taken aback. I thought to myself, "Jesus, that's small peanuts for our budget," and even "maybe Bill should just handle this."

And then I realized the issue - it's not that we can't afford it. It's that we're not allowed to pay for the players' families' meals.

F the NCAA.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:34 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Yeah, it's become a tradition that the team always eats at Eddie V's (formerly Ruth's Chris) on the Plaza the night before every December Sprint Center game.