Uncle Joe

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Nice that Overlander helped explain to randy why the msm would give "dramatically different perspectives" of those events.
Only a "brainwashed little twat with not an independent thought in years" could know what happened during both of those events and watch both of those events with their own eyes and conclude it was the "same general scenario".

"msm narrative" of 9/11 - Terrorists hijacked planes and flew them in to the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. Almost 3,000 people were killed.
randy's probable "narrative" - That's not true. I watched a YouTube video some guy named IamfullofshitandmoronswillbeleiveanythingIsay proved our government and the Israeli's collaborated and did it.

"msm narrative" - Barack Obama was the 44th President of the United States and danced with his wife to the song At Last at the 2009 Inauguration dinner event.
randy's probable "narrative" - That's not true. I watched a TikTok video and the song was Jungle Boogie and Barack Obama was a crack addicted faggot before he became President.

"msm narrative" - On December 14th 2012 a guy named Adam Lanza shot and killed 20+ people at a school in Connecticut.
randy's probable "narrative" - That's not true. I watched 3 videos on Instagram. It was bunch of crisis actors planted by the Dems to try and brainwash people so that the Dems can take all of our guns away.

"msm narrative" - In 1941 the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and in the early 1940s approximately 6 million Jews were killed by Nazis led by Hitler.
randy's probable "narrative" - That's not true. I read a meme that said it was clearly American planes that were flying into boats in Hawaii on December 7th 1941 and I read a meme that said only about 60,000 Jews were killed. They were all old or had pre-existing health issues so no one should really care that they died and our government should have sat back and let it continue to happen instead of getting involved because it had no effect on my ancestors.

[randylahey]

Funny how he was not able to provide a rational comparison between peaceful protestors exercising 1st Amendment rights and the insurrectionist attackers of 6 Jan. It is almost like that it was a stupid analogy.

Same basic scenario happened both times. Labeled differently by the msm. So you are now brainwashed into believing they are entirely different.

They are effective with thought control.
My liberal friends prove that every day

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Funny how he was not able to provide a rational comparison between peaceful protestors exercising 1st Amendment rights and the insurrectionist attackers of 6 Jan. It is almost like that it was a stupid analogy.

Same basic scenario happened both times. Labeled differently by the msm. So you are now brainwashed into believing they are entirely different.

They are effective with thought control.
My liberal friends prove that every day

VGR!

NO! It is NOT AT ALL "the same basic scenario".
YES! OF COURSE it's going to be "labeled differently by the msm" just as it was "labeled differently" by "alternative media".
You continuously use the word "brainwashed". Are you incapable of comprehending YOU are 100% guilty of being brainwashed and you prove it on here on basically a daily basis?
YOUR level of "thought control" is to believe things that can't and aren't being proven and not believing things that can and have been proven.
I'm confident most people on here feel there is ZERO chance you have political conversations with your liberal friends (I assume imaginary) every day.

I can and will completely agree with you that there are brainwashed bat shit crazy Liberals.
I feel sorry for you that you don't have any self respect and don't understand and can't admit that (at least on here) you are a brainwashed bat shit crazy anti-Liberal.

[randylahey]

Once again...crickets and coyotes.....

Felt no need to state the obvious. Both were groups of people who didn't approve of a political appointment and stormed into a government building and occupied it

Same general scenario. Given dramatically different perspectives by the msm

And yes I know. You don't agree. You agree with the msm narrative on everything, because you are a brainwashed little twat with not an independent thought in years

Having met Overlander, "little twat" is not a phrase to describe him that would occur to me in a million years.

In fact, to the contrary, Trump's cuck.

A trump cuck who plans on voting for a Democrat in 2024???

Something about your story doesn't add up

[Shirley]

[Shirley]

Morningstar Sep 13, 2023 2:02 PM EDT:

U.S. records budget surplus in August as White House makes adjustment for blocked student loan plan

[Overlander]

Funny how he was not able to provide a rational comparison between peaceful protestors exercising 1st Amendment rights and the insurrectionist attackers of 6 Jan. It is almost like that it was a stupid analogy.

My friends

That’s funny

[randylahey]

Joe biden wasting more tax dollars and incentivizing trouble for Americans overseas

[jfish26]

Joe biden wasting more tax dollars and incentivizing trouble for Americans overseas

As usual, if you'd care to learn anything beyond what your handlers want you to know, you'd learn that the way right-leaning media characterizes this is highly misleading.

[randylahey]

"But there's no evidence *liberal sobbing"

[ousdahl]

Oh look at you, defending Reagan!

Let that sink in.

Ok, now that Shirley of all people is done defending ol’ Saint Ronnie - on the issue of breaking the law, read this:

https://time.com/6238361/joe-biden-rail-strike-illegal/

You read that correctly: Biden decided the broader economy was a bigger priority than 100,000 freight rail workers having any paid sick leave in their next contract. After campaigning as the most pro-union presidential candidate in history, Biden signed into law a measure that makes a rail strike illegal.

Simpletons like Randy find life scary and confusing, so they resort to embracing conspiracy theories that tie things into nice little bundles they can make sense of to make themselves feel better, no matter how implausible.

You, on the other hand, seem to find comfort by resorting to seeing life's complexities in black and white no matter how implausible, eschewing all nuance to make yourself feel righteous and sure. In the process, you regularly challenge and offend people who feel much the same way you do, but lack the gift of certainty you've bestowed upon yourself. Unfortunately, life is nuanced, whether you choose to acknowledge that, or not.

What PATCO did by going on strike was against the law. In retrospect, no matter how much I/we might have agreed with their cause, they overplayed their hand and Reagan was only too happy to seize the opportunity to make an example out of them, and they suffered the consequences of their actions. Life can be like that.

I began working for anti-war, pro-labor democratic candidates in the late 60s and early 70s before I was old enough to vote. My first job in support of a democratic candidate was silk screening yard signs, delivering them to people who requested them, and then picking them up when the election was over. Since then, I have stuffed many envelopes, sat in rooms for hours on multiple occasions during many different elections with like-minded people I didn't know for hours, making calls to registered democrats on long lists I was handed, only to have them hangup on me more times than I can remember. I've walked neighborhoods I never would have ventured into otherwise knocking on many, many doors, as well as organized small-scale fundraisers, among other things I can't recall.

In light of what I've actually done in support of pro-labor candidates, i.e., show up, over the last > 50 years donating time I could have spent in any number of other more enjoyable ways, being called out by a message board warrior like yourself questioning my pro-labor bonafides is, to put it nicely, rich.

first, let me sincerely compliment you for organizing on behalf of labor.

next, I'll thank you for not labeling me a simpleton.

but, fwiw - I do find life scary and confusing. The injustice, the inequality, the struggling of so many despite the abundance of wealth and resources...not to mention the next pandemic, or war, or recession, or natural disaster, or whatever other catastrophe we might encounter.

I also assure you that I think of the pols bored, and life in general, as very overwhelmingly nuanced, and far from black and white.

Like anything, I suppose whether Biden really is "pro-labor" is some matter of nuance too. I'm concerned this pro-labor rhetoric is just that, only rhetoric, and he's actually far cozier with capital than we'd like to admit, or even realize.

And even more generally, I can't help but be leery of any legal system that makes things like strikes illegal - whether for rail workers, or air traffic controllers, or anyone.

and, to wrap this post up for now - no offense meant, but since you mentioned it, I dunno how you can so proudly claim to be anti-war, when you come across as more so hawkish in the war thread now. But then again, I dunno how you can claim to be pro-labor, yet not even acknowledge that Biden signed a law to make a rail strike illegal. Shrug.

I don't mean that as black and white, nor as me trying to be righteous. And I'm definitely not sure of myself, or certain of much of anything at all in this confusing and scary life.

Maybe I AM just a simpleton, after all.

[ousdahl]

moving right along...

https://x.com/PushBidenLeft/status/1701 ... 97217?s=20

[defixione]

Read the third comment.

[ousdahl]

wait, which is the third?

the one suggesting it's the GOP's fault?

if that's the case, and we're gonna give a dem POTUS a pass while in office cuz of something the GOP did, then what's the point of even voting dem?

[randylahey]

wait, which is the third?

the one suggesting it's the GOP's fault?

if that's the case, and we're gonna give a dem POTUS a pass while in office cuz of something the GOP did, then what's the point of even voting dem?

Let me explain leftist logic to you

If something bad happens when a republican is president, if the Republicans fault

If something bad happens when a democrat is in office, it's either the previous presidents fault, or congress fault, or whichever republican politician can be loosely tied to the situation


I've heard it a million times

[Shirley]

wait, which is the third?

the one suggesting it's the GOP's fault?

if that's the case, and we're gonna give a dem POTUS a pass while in office cuz of something the GOP did, then what's the point of even voting dem?

Try to keep up. From a post of mine yesterday:

I don't accept the premise that "The country is more to the right than you think", and it's due to democrats who are too progressive, as explanations for why the child poverty rate increased from an all-time low of 5.2% in '21, to 12.4% in 2022. I blame Joe Manchin.

Joe Manchin Killed the Expanded Child Tax Credit

lotta truth

fuck manchin and cinnamon

No, that's my point, it's not Mancini and Synema, there are 50 other Senators with them. The country is more to the right than you think. Compromise, or get nothing and let the Republican crazies take over. It seems the Progressive caucus prefers the latter.

[ousdahl]

dang.

So I guess "...if it weren't for Manchin!" will be a helluva campaign pitch for Biden 24.

[Sparko]

dang.

So I guess "...if it weren't for Manchin!" will be a helluva campaign pitch for Biden 24.

If it weren't for purity trolls, and Greens, maybe we would have the sizeable progressive majority the country needs

[ousdahl]

wait, which is the third?

the one suggesting it's the GOP's fault?

if that's the case, and we're gonna give a dem POTUS a pass while in office cuz of something the GOP did, then what's the point of even voting dem?

Let me explain leftist logic to you

If something bad happens when a republican is president, if the Republicans fault

If something bad happens when a democrat is in office, it's either the previous presidents fault, or congress fault, or whichever republican politician can be loosely tied to the situation


I've heard it a million times

actually, no.

leftist logic is more along the lines of - the two-party system is, and always has been, established to preserve and pursue the interests of the bourgeoise.

As such, it makes little difference whether one picks a dem or a pub. Both are ultimately in bed with capital, far more so than anything vaguely resembling We The People.

The "dem" or "pub" is mostly just an illusion of choice, and taking one side and blaming the other is little more than kabuki theater.

[Sparko]

Joe biden wasting more tax dollars and incentivizing trouble for Americans overseas

This costs us nothing since it is Iranian money. Plus Qatar will distribute it to only humantarian needs. Biden's foreign policy has been extremely effective. Best in our lifetime.