Kansas Crimson

i don't believe anybody wants to disarm the good folks.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:42 am i don't believe anybody wants to disarm the good folks.

I wish that were true but I've seen hundreds of posts of people saying "everyone should turn in their guns so we can do something"
A lot of people are naive enough to think we can magically make guns disappear

i do believe every person should have to pass a background check to purchase a firearm.

i am subject to a background check to ref HS soccer. I am subject to a background check to coach youth hockey.

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:41 am I also feel that the endless attention these shooters get actually adds to the problem. It unintentionally glorifies them. A lot of these shooters are kids that slipped through the cracks of society and feel lost and forgotten. This is their way of reminding us that they are still here

Are you...saying that if we ignore the problem, it'll go away? That one day - it's like a miracle - it will disappear?

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:45 am i do believe every person should have to pass a background check to purchase a firearm.

i am subject to a background check to ref HS soccer. I am subject to a background check to coach youth hockey.

Before the sun sets today, you'll see people cravenly turn this tragedy into an opportunity to target the freedoms of only an "undesirable" segment of our society.

i do believe that no person outside the active military should be allowed to own one of those guns that can shoot a hundred rounds in a minute.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:48 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:45 am i do believe every person should have to pass a background check to purchase a firearm.

i am subject to a background check to ref HS soccer. I am subject to a background check to coach youth hockey.

Before the sun sets today, you'll see people cravenly turn this tragedy into an opportunity to target the freedoms of only an "undesirable" segment of our society.

What freedoms do trans people not have? What rights do others have that they don't

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:46 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:41 am I also feel that the endless attention these shooters get actually adds to the problem. It unintentionally glorifies them. A lot of these shooters are kids that slipped through the cracks of society and feel lost and forgotten. This is their way of reminding us that they are still here

Are you...saying that if we ignore the problem, it'll go away? That one day - it's like a miracle - it will disappear?

I think we should try identifying the problem first. Guns have always been around in this country... mass shootings became a more prevalent thing around the turn of the century. What changes were happening in our society that has suddenly started creating all these psychopathic desires

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:50 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:48 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:45 am i do believe every person should have to pass a background check to purchase a firearm.

i am subject to a background check to ref HS soccer. I am subject to a background check to coach youth hockey.

Before the sun sets today, you'll see people cravenly turn this tragedy into an opportunity to target the freedoms of only an "undesirable" segment of our society.

What freedoms do trans people not have? What rights do others have that they don't

I'll just drop a pin in this one. You can smell out the bad faith a goddamn mile away:

* rubes will do anything to blame gun violence on anything but guns
* "it's a mental health issue, not a gun issue"
* libs LOVE background checks!
* people with mental health issues shouldn't be allowed to have guns
* a trans person just used guns to kill kids
* I don't care about trans people
* Trans people must be mentally ill

Bada bing, bada boom:

Trans people shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

The connective tissue is building on both sides, toward that inevitable bad-faith "conclusion".

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:52 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:46 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:41 am I also feel that the endless attention these shooters get actually adds to the problem. It unintentionally glorifies them. A lot of these shooters are kids that slipped through the cracks of society and feel lost and forgotten. This is their way of reminding us that they are still here

Are you...saying that if we ignore the problem, it'll go away? That one day - it's like a miracle - it will disappear?

I think we should try identifying the problem first. Guns have always been around in this country... mass shootings became a more prevalent thing around the turn of the century. What changes were happening in our society that has suddenly started creating all these psychopathic desires

So, you're saying that maybe the founding fathers didn't have all of this in mind?

i do believe that the DA's need to enforce the laws that are one the books. no gun charges should ever be pleaded down.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:49 am i do believe that no person outside the active military should be allowed to own one of those guns that can shoot a hundred rounds in a minute.

A person could just as easily mow down a crowd with a runaway vehicle and kill hundreds too. Guns are a tool, not a root cause of the evil

Jfish. What freedoms don't trans people have??? You ignored that part

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:36 am Humans are violent, always have been and always will be. I know you guys mean well, but disarming yourselves is NOT the way to protect yourself from violence. So naive

It's a way to protect myself (and others) from getting shot. Is it not?
Broken record time......
I saw my best friend laying dead with his body bullet ridden. I promise you if the person who shot him didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have been shot. Do I think the person who shot him may have tried to use a different weapon to kill him? Perhaps but my being naive or not, I probably would have liked his chances of survival better if that person didn't have a gun.

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:59 am Jfish. What freedoms don't trans people have??? You ignored that part

I have not ignored it at all. I'm over here predicting the future: one of your shit shovelers will be out there, if they're not already, using this tragedy to say that gender dysphoria is a mental illness that should be disqualifying for gun ownership.

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:58 am A person could just as easily mow down a crowd with a runaway vehicle and kill hundreds too. Guns are a tool, not a root cause of the evil

not inside a school they can't.

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:59 am Jfish. What freedoms don't trans people have??? You ignored that part

Is that a serious question? If you really fucking care (and I know you don't) then perhaps you should spend some time asking and talking to a Trans person.
I'll start off with a simple answer to your question. The freedom to exist without some assholes ridiculing them because they are "different".

So jfish can't answer the question everybody

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:05 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:59 am Jfish. What freedoms don't trans people have??? You ignored that part

Is that a serious question? If you really fucking care (and I know you don't) then perhaps you should spend some time asking and talking to a Trans person.
I'll start off with a simple answer to your question. The freedom to exist without some assholes ridiculing them because they are "different".

Not one person on this planet has that freedom. Everyone gets ridiculed. And its not a freedom. Try again

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:07 am So jfish can't answer the question everybody

What in the world are you talking about? My god, culture war issues converging is causing your brain cells to play bumper cars or something.