Kansas Crimson

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:52 amholy balls.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:31 am Golfing should be the first thing banned and last activity reopened. Talk about non-essential.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:36 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:31 am Golfing should be the first thing banned and last activity reopened. Talk about non-essential.

Of course golf is not essential. But how is me and the old lady going to shoot 9 gonna hurt anybody?

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:55 am There's somewhere in between that seems reasonable.
It's not a coup attempt.
But it's also a bit over reactionary and has been a suppression of freedom.

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:48 am

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:55 am There's somewhere in between that seems reasonable.
It's not a coup attempt.
But it's also a bit over reactionary and has been a suppression of freedom.

Really? The US has been "over reactionary"?

We have more total infections than the next 4 most infected countries in the world combined, yet we've been "over reactionary"?

I'd be curious to know who it is that has been "over reactionary"?

Is it President Trump?

-Is it New York Governor Cuomo?

-Is it South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem? Who still hasn't issued a stay at home order for her state, despite the Smithfield pork processing plant in Sioux Falls being the "largest COVID-19 hot spot" in the nation, where over 700 workers have contracted Covid-19?

-Is it Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds, where only 0.6% of the population, tied for lowest in the nation, have been tested? Yet, meat processing plants in Iowa are closing in Waterloo, and Tama, Iowa, with more closures likely to come?

Always, when it comes to pandemics, the number one objective, the entire point, is to overdo it, to overdo everything, until you no longer have to. Why? Because the penalty for failure is potentially so dire.

Please, name another reason that has flattened the curve in NYC as much or more than social distancing.

I absolutely agree that states like Kansas are in no way equivalent to NYC, and should definitely be considered for earlier opening of their economies, etc. But (your) Psych's argument/anger is misplaced. It's not because a bunch of pointy headed liberal intellectual snowflakes and scientists have hatched a plan to unleash a pandemic to bring the economy down so they can defeat Trump this fall. Unfortunately, your argument is with Trump. Because it's precisely because the federal response to the pandemic has been such an unmitigated failure so far, we haven't, and still can't do the testing on a scale that will give us the data to know who is infected, who was infected and is now immune, so that we can know when it's safe for people in different localities throughout the nation to safely get back to work.

If only Trump had immediately started doing the things that could eventually make it possible for us to reopen our society instead of immediately lying to the Americans people to cover his ass and devoting his energy to finding someone, something, anything else to blame, we could be on the road to reopening, like a number of the other democracies around the world, instead of being an international joke.

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:48 am

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:55 am There's somewhere in between that seems reasonable.
It's not a coup attempt.
But it's also a bit over reactionary and has been a suppression of freedom.

Really? The US has been "over reactionary"?

We have more total infections than the next 4 most infected countries in the world combined, yet we've been "over reactionary"?

I'd be curious to know who it is that has been "over reactionary"?

Is it President Trump?

-Is it New York Governor Cuomo?

-Is it South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem? Who still hasn't issued a stay at home order for her state, despite the Smithfield pork processing plant in Sioux Falls being the "largest COVID-19 hot spot" in the nation, where over 700 workers have contracted Covid-19?

-Is it Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds, where only 0.6% of the population, tied for lowest in the nation, have been tested? Yet, meat processing plants in Iowa are closing in Waterloo, and Tama, Iowa, with more closures likely to come?

Always, when it comes to pandemics, the number one objective, the entire point, is to overdo it, to overdo everything, until you no longer have to. Why? Because the penalty for failure is potentially so dire.

Please, name another reason that has flattened the curve in NYC as much or more than social distancing.

I absolutely agree that states like Kansas are in no way equivalent to NYC, and should definitely be considered for earlier opening of their economies, etc. But (your) Psych's argument/anger is misplaced. It's not because a bunch of pointy headed liberal intellectual snowflakes and scientists have hatched a plan to unleash a pandemic to bring the economy down so they can defeat Trump this fall. Unfortunately, your argument is with Trump. Because it's precisely because the federal response to the pandemic has been such an unmitigated failure so far, we haven't, and still can't do the testing on a scale that will give us the data to know who is infected, who was infected and is now immune, so that we can know when it's safe for people in different localities throughout the nation to safely get back to work.

If only Trump had immediately started doing the things that could eventually make it possible for us to reopen our society instead of immediately lying to the Americans people to cover his ass and devoting his energy to finding someone, something, anything else to blame, we could be on the road to reopening, like a number of the other democracies around the world, instead of being an international joke.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:36 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:31 am Golfing should be the first thing banned and last activity reopened. Talk about non-essential.

Of course golf is not essential. But how is me and the old lady going to shoot 9 gonna hurt anybody?

How is me and the old lady jumping in the boat for a cruise gonna hurt anybody.

How is my neighbor that owns a one man grass cutting service servicing his clients gonna hurt anybody?

How.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:11 am I’m not overly concerned about my personal liberties. I just wonder why I cannot jump in my boat and go for a spin.

I do not parallel me jumping in my boat, with me yelling fire when there is no fire. Do you.

chiknbut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:15 am President Pussy-Grabber's got your back, Mich!

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:21 am I don’t have to come in contact with one other person. Not one, to go out and take a spin in my boat. Yet I cannot.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:31 am You can apply a one size fits all solution. But this is not a one size fits all problem.

It’s just not. It’s ok to apply some sense.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:20 am

chiknbut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:15 am President Pussy-Grabber's got your back, Mich!

wait, now the coronavirus is comin to take our guns too?!