Clemence plays what the PF position has morphed into, a PF who can shoot threes and could be on the court with a center.
Mitch is a PF (based on his size) who cannot shoot threes. He cannot be out there with a true center.
I think fans and coaches have a different idea of defining a modern 4. Fans think it's the ability to shoot threes. I think the coaches (especially Self) see it more as someone who can defend inside and/or rebound some, but can also switch screens.
From what I have seen I think Clemence is too slow to be a 4, at least for Self. But his shooting ability does make it easier to play KJ at the 4. They complement each other nicely.
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:45 pm
Yes. His position (PF) might exist next year at KU. KJ and Clemence have a legit chance to start together.
That's all.
Clemence plays what the PF position has morphed into, a PF who can shoot threes and could be on the court with a center.
Mitch is a PF (based on his size) who cannot shoot threes. He cannot be out there with a true center.
I think fans and coaches have a different idea of defining a modern 4. Fans think it's the ability to shoot threes. I think the coaches (especially Self) see it more as someone who can defend inside and/or rebound some, but can also switch screens.
From what I have seen I think Clemence is too slow to be a 4, at least for Self. But his shooting ability does make it easier to play KJ at the 4. They complement each other nicely.
Can Clemence jump? Like, at all?
KJ was brought in as a guy that could eventually play on the perimeter--he's actually kind of short, but can absolutely switch screens. Clemence is more a stretch 4 in the NBA--maybe not here.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:47 pm
by pdub
Zach is 6'10 and 225 and can/will put on weight.
He could play center here.
Landen came in 6'9 and was 240.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:47 pm
by Mjl
That's what I'm saying - I think KJ is a perfect 4. But the fact Clemence can shoot makes KJ's lack of outside shooting as a new-Self-4 (which is more of a perimeter position than a post position) less problematic.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:53 pm
by KUTradition
KJ seems to me like a slightly more talented Jamari
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:59 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:53 pm
KJ seems to me like a slightly more talented Jamari
Take out the slightly. Jamari was just an athlete, not a basketball player.
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:53 pm
KJ seems to me like a slightly more talented Jamari
Take out the slightly. Jamari was just an athlete, not a basketball player.
lol…fair enough
i was initially gonna say a rich man’s Jamari. probably shoulda gone with that
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:17 pm
by Deleted User 863
Jamari has had a long professional basketball career for a guy who isn't a basketball player.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:19 pm
by Deleted User 863
Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:47 pm
That's what I'm saying - I think KJ is a perfect 4. But the fact Clemence can shoot makes KJ's lack of outside shooting as a new-Self-4 (which is more of a perimeter position than a post position) less problematic.
Yes. Could even see some of the old school Self high low with those 2.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:29 pm
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:17 pm
Jamari has had a long professional basketball career for a guy who isn't a basketball player.
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:45 pm
Yes. His position (PF) might exist next year at KU. KJ and Clemence have a legit chance to start together.
That's all.
Clemence plays what the PF position has morphed into, a PF who can shoot threes and could be on the court with a center.
Mitch is a PF (based on his size) who cannot shoot threes. He cannot be out there with a true center.
Now do KJ
KJ is a shorter, faster, stronger, bouncier Mitch who will spend most of his career as a front court energy guy off the bench.
KJ is a shorter, faster, stronger, bouncier Mitch who will spend most of his career as a front court energy guy off the bench.
Then he'll probably transfer.
Wouldn't surprise me. If he was taller or more skilled, I'd think his future was brighter. But he's 6'7" and was ranked 97th in his class. He already behind Clemence with 6'8" Top 50 recruit Zuby Ejiofor and 6'10" Top 30 recruit Ernest Udeh coming in behind him. If both of those two come to Lawrence by the beginning of summer, I wouldn't be surprised to see Adams transfer before the beginning of next season after seeing the writing on the wall.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:05 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:01 pm
How’s KJ compare to Zuby?
I have never seen Zuby play so who knows.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:07 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:01 pm
How’s KJ compare to Zuby?
Udeh should be our big man beast. Maybe not right away, though.
KJ is a shorter, faster, stronger, bouncier Mitch who will spend most of his career as a front court energy guy off the bench.
Then he'll probably transfer.
Wouldn't surprise me. If he was taller or more skilled, I'd think his future was brighter. But he's 6'7" and was ranked 97th in his class. He already behind Clemence with 6'8" Top 50 recruit Zuby Ejiofor and 6'10" Top 30 recruit Ernest Udeh coming in behind him. If both of those two come to Lawrence by the beginning of summer, I wouldn't be surprised to see Adams transfer before the beginning of next season after seeing the writing on the wall.
97th? He wasn't that low in any of the services. Average (RSCI) 66th.